[WT-support] Fw: Mic/Headset not muting

Tue Aug 19 18:39:33 CEST 2014

Hello lads

Some sound cards don't have the option to mute the microphone input. This has been stated before and I have given a suggestion before to the Win-Test crew that instead of muting the microphone input, why not just save the current slider value, change it to 0 and then change it back to the previous setting but as far as I know this was never implemented. In N1MM they have done it this way but the Win-Test crew believe its better to buy new hardware.

Here is a discussion previously,
http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2011-October/081647.html

Mike, SM2WMV (SJ2W)
http://www.sj2w.se/contest/

19 augusti 2014, Colin Jenkins <colin at ku5b.com> skrev:
> We will give defining a PTT port a try but the other 5 computers have not had one defined thus far. All Windows sounds are completely turned off, so that has never been a problem. However, this is the only computer with a combined line-in/mic plug.
> 
> Thus lies the issue that there aren't separate line-in/mic plugs. Upon plugging a cable into this jack, the computer prompts us whether to choose to use this jack as a line-in or mic device. Mic has always been selected and is always selected in the Recording Control settings. (I even tried the front panel mic with no success). The Input Monitor seems to have ALL the effect on the mic, as even checking "Line-In" as the recording device yields the same results.
> 
> Input monitor checked: ALL audio goes through the mic even while playing an F key message
> Input monitor unchecked: ONLY F key messages are transmitted, PTT audio does not work unless input monitor is re-checked
> 
> I didn't think to check the "Mute" box under the mic slider while transmitting.
> 
> We will have to check the exact model of the computer, but the soundcard is a SoundMax (as I recall). Thinking back, the computer model may be a Dell Optiplex 755.
> I think what Bob meant by "new XP system" was that it is new in the shack system. The computer was only installed at the beginning of this year but was used previously for some years by one of our ops.
> 
> 
> Colin KU5B
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net>
> > To: Win-Test Reflector <support at win-test.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WT-support] Mic/Headset not muting
> > 
> > Bob,
> > 
> > It's usually a good idea to define a PTT port whenever you select Voice Keyer: Enable Sound Card in Win-Test Interfaces Configuration. Otherwise, every beep sound made by Windows could key the transmitter. So could stray RF or noise in the audio lines.
> > 
> > In the Windows Recording Control, is Microphone selected as the recording device, or Line In? Set it to Mic. (Open Volume Control, Options, Properties, Recording, check all boxes, click OK, check "Select" under the Microphone slider).
> > 
> > Please refer to this post for tips on how to get to that control:
> > <http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2007-October/074736.html>
> > 
> > 
> > You should also be able to keep the Windows Master Volume window visible while you're running Win-Test, and you should see the "Mute" checkbox under the "Microphone" slider change every time you play a voice message by pressing F1. If it is doing that, and you have recorded a message via Shift+F1, then Win-Test is working properly with your sound card, and the mic. should be muted.
> > However, if somehow the mic. is connected to Line In instead of Mic In, it may not. What model of PC do you have and what type of sound card is displayed by Win-Test under "Voice Keyer"?
> > 
> > 
> > As long as you're really running Windows XP, nothing later, using the sound card as a voice keyer should work fine, including mic. muting when playing a message, though updating the device driver for your sound card may be required if it is not working.
> > I ask because you said you have a "relatively new XP system", which is surprising because no new systems have been shipped with Windows XP for many years.
> > 
> > 
> > 73,
> > Bob, N6TV
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Robert Pack <<nx5m at txcyber.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Do not see a reason for defining a PTT port since everything goes through the sound card.
> > > Yes, mic plugged into the sound card at all times.
> > > Yes to "mute the microphone input while the DVK is playing".
> > > 
> > > As far as screen shots....it will be a while before this can be done. Perhaps a couple of weeks when I am back at the station.
> > > 
> > > Bob NX5M
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net>
> > > > To: Win-Test Reflector <support at win-test.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:24 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [WT-support] Mic/Headset not muting
> > > > 
> > > > I assume you're keeping the mic. plugged into the sound card at all times, not the radio. That's the only way that automatic muting can work.
> > > > 
> > > > Depending on your sound card, you may have to check certain options. I assume you already checked Mute the microphone input while the DVK is playing, not the other one.
> > > > 
> > > > Please send me screen shots of the Win-Test Interfaces Configuration Screen, your Windows XP Recording Control screen, and your Windows Sound Card options.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, did you select a PTT port on COM1 or LPT1? Defining a PTT port may be required to get this to work right.
> > > > 
> > > > 73,
> > > > Bob, N6TV
> > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Robert Pack <<nx5m at txcyber.com>> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Discovered an issue, which may have been present for the past several months after replacing one of the computers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mic will not mute when the voice keyer is playing.
> > > > > Computer is a relatively new XP system.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Box in "configure interfaces" is checked. Tried un-checking and vice-versa. Restarted WinTest. Restarted computer.
> > > > > Went into the settings on the computer and tried various selections.
> > > > > If the INPUT MONITOR is muted in Windows the mic is muted when the voice keyer is playing. However, this also kills the mic for everything else. The voice keyer still plays the recorded message in this case.
> > > > > If the INPUT MONITOR is not muted the mic is "hot" all the time....also while an F-Message is being transmitted.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The computer only has two ports on the sound card. Blue and red (LINE IN and MIC) are consolidated into this one port.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does anyone know a solution to this problem?
> > > > > Do not want to mic to be "hot" when a voice keyer message is being transmitted.
> > > > > Possibly a sound card incompatibility issue since the LINE IN and MIC are combined into one port?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Suggestions welcome!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bob NX5M
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