Hello lads<br /><br />Some sound cards don't have the option to mute the microphone input. This has been stated before and I have given a suggestion before to the Win-Test crew that instead of muting the microphone input, why not just save the current slider value, change it to 0 and then change it back to the previous setting but as far as I know this was never implemented. In N1MM they have done it this way but the Win-Test crew believe its better to buy new hardware.<br /><br />Here is a discussion previously,<br />http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2011-October/081647.html<br /><br />Mike, SM2WMV (SJ2W)<br />http://www.sj2w.se/contest/<br /><br /><p>19 augusti 2014, Colin Jenkins <colin@ku5b.com> skrev:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div class="oneComWebmail-html oneComWebmail-mail"><div class="oneComWebmail-body"><div dir="ltr"><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">We will give defining a PTT port a try but the other 5 computers have not had one defined thus far. All Windows sounds are completely turned off, so that has never been a problem. However, this is the only computer with a combined line-in/mic plug.</div>
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">Thus lies the issue that there aren't separate line-in/mic plugs. Upon plugging a cable into this jack, the computer prompts us whether to choose to use this jack as a line-in or mic device. Mic has always been selected and is always selected in the Recording Control settings. (I even tried the front panel mic with no success). The Input Monitor seems to have ALL the effect on the mic, as even checking "Line-In" as the recording device yields the same results.</div>
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">Input monitor checked: ALL audio goes through the mic even while playing an F key message</div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">Input monitor unchecked: ONLY F key messages are transmitted, PTT audio does not work unless input monitor is re-checked</div>
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">I didn't think to check the "Mute" box under the mic slider while transmitting.</div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">We will have to check the exact model of the computer, but the soundcard is a SoundMax (as I recall). Thinking back, the computer model may be a Dell Optiplex 755.</div>
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_extra">I think what Bob meant by "new XP system" was that it is new in the shack system. The computer was only installed at the beginning of this year but was used previously for some years by one of our ops.<br />
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><div class="">----- Original Message -----
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:n6tv@arrl.net" target="_blank">Bob Wilson, N6TV</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:support@win-test.com" target="_blank">Win-Test Reflector</a> </div>
</div><div class=""><div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 18, 2014 10:37 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] Mic/Headset not muting</div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Bob,
<div><br /></div>
<div>It's usually a good idea to define a PTT port whenever you select Voice
Keyer: Enable Sound Card in Win-Test Interfaces Configuration. Otherwise, every
beep sound made by Windows could key the transmitter. So could stray RF or
noise in the audio lines.
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<div>In the Windows Recording Control, is Microphone selected as the recording
device, or Line In? Set it to Mic. (Open Volume Control, Options,
Properties, Recording, check all boxes, click OK, check "Select" under the
Microphone slider).</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>Please refer to this post for tips on how to get to that control:</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div><a href="http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2007-October/074736.html" target="_blank">http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2007-October/074736.html</a><br /></div>
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<div>You should also be able to keep the Windows Master Volume window visible
while you're running Win-Test, and you should see the "Mute" checkbox under the
"Microphone" slider change every time you play a voice message by pressing F1.
If it is doing that, and you have recorded a message via Shift+F1, then
Win-Test is working properly with your sound card, and the mic. should be
muted.</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>However, if somehow the mic. is connected to Line In instead of Mic In, it
may not. What model of PC do you have and what type of sound card is
displayed by Win-Test under "Voice Keyer"?<br />
<div><br /></div>
<div>As long as you're really running Windows XP, nothing later, using the sound
card as a voice keyer should work fine, including mic. muting when playing a
message, though updating the device driver for your sound card may be required
if it is not working.</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>I ask because you said you have a "relatively new XP system", which is
surprising because no new systems have been shipped with Windows XP for many
years.<br /></div></div>
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<div>73,
<div>Bob, N6TV</div></div><br />
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Robert Pack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nx5m@txcyber.com" target="_blank">nx5m@txcyber.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div><font size="+0">Do not see a reason for defining a PTT port since
everything goes through the sound card.</font></div>
<div><font size="+0">Yes, mic plugged into the sound card at all
times.</font></div>
<div><font size="+0">Yes to "mute the microphone input while the DVK is
playing".</font></div>
<div><font size="+0"></font> </div>
<div><font size="+0">As far as screen shots....it will be a while before this
can be done. Perhaps a couple of weeks when I am back at the
station.</font></div>
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<div><font size="+0">Bob NX5M</font></div><div><div class="oneComWebmail-h5">
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228);"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:n6tv@arrl.net" target="_blank">Bob Wilson,
N6TV</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:support@win-test.com" target="_blank">Win-Test Reflector</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:24
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] Mic/Headset
not muting</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I assume you're keeping the mic. plugged into the sound card at
all times, not the radio. That's the only way that automatic muting
can work.
<div><br /></div>
<div>Depending on your sound card, you may have to check certain options.
I assume you already checked <b style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px;"><span>Mute</span> the
microphone input while the DVK is playing</b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px;">, not the other
one.</span></div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>Please send me screen shots of the Win-Test Interfaces Configuration
Screen, your Windows XP Recording Control screen, and your Windows Sound
Card options.</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>Also, did you select a PTT port on COM1 or LPT1? Defining a PTT
port may be required to get this to work right.</div>
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<div>73,
<div>Bob, N6TV</div></div><br />
<div class="oneComWebmail-gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Robert Pack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nx5m@txcyber.com" target="_blank">nx5m@txcyber.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div><font face="Arial">Discovered an issue, which may have been present for
the past several months after replacing one of the computers.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Mic will not mute when the voice keyer is
playing.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Computer is a relatively new XP system.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Box in "configure interfaces" is checked.
Tried un-checking and vice-versa. Restarted WinTest. Restarted
computer. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Went into the settings on the computer and tried
various selections.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">If the INPUT MONITOR is muted in Windows the mic is
muted when the voice keyer is playing. However, this also
kills the mic for everything else. The voice keyer still plays the
recorded message in this case.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">If the INPUT MONITOR is not muted the mic is "hot"
all the time....also while an F-Message is being transmitted.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">The computer only has two ports on the sound
card. Blue and red (LINE IN and MIC) are consolidated into this one
port.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Does anyone know a solution to this
problem?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Do not want to mic to be "hot" when a voice keyer
message is being transmitted.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Possibly a sound card incompatibility issue since
the LINE IN and MIC are combined into one port?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Suggestions welcome!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Bob
NX5M</font></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br /></div></div>
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