[WT-support] SO2R on 2 networked computers

[Tom W8JI]

What you miss is that many people want to hold the memory 
while locked out and then send it when the other radio 
releases, so they comply with rules.

A hardware lockout is simple but will not accomplish that, 
so people cannot use the memory to send CW or can not use 
the voice memory when using a hardware lockout.

What this means is people are inclined to NOT follow the 
rules when using a manual lockout because it prevents using 
the memory, so they just want to abandon the whole 
protection. Not having the lockout in the computer 
encourages people to make mistakes. At any station people 
object to the hardware lockout because it prevents using 
memory messages or exchanges. A manual lockout is a very bad 
solution in the sense you can not use the memories to send 
exchanges or to hold a frequency on the run station.

A computer lockout that holds the message while locked out 
and then sends upon release of the other radio is a perfect 
solution because no one can use a foot switch to defeat it, 
and because the memories are available to use.


73 Tom



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "yl2gd" <yl2gd at lral.lv>
To: <support at win-test.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WT-support] SO2R on 2 networked computers


Hi, Fabio and others!

I agree with you Fabio based on my 2 years SO2R 2PC
expirience of your hardware idea.
In my opinion RDO sport is based on the gentleman honesty.
If somebody is intended to cheet, he will found a way to do 
it
ALWAYS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
The only event which brings all things to "clear waters" IS 
WRTC.

Thanks to Win-Test team for good "working horse" contest 
software!

73! Gunar - YL2GD/YL6W


----- Original Message -----
From: I4UFH HRS <i4ufh at hamradiosolutions.com>
To: <support at win-test.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WT-support] SO2R on 2 networked computers


Hi guys,

is not too difficult interlock both PTT lines with 2 two way 
relays that
open the unused radio when the used in on and viceversa.

Software interlock cannot avoid Footswitch press, in SSB 
mode because most
of the time the footswitch are direct connected to the 
radios or amps.

In my personal experience, avoid to do in software what u 
can do in
hardware, software can glitch,
PC can broke or slow down the proccess for any reason, and 
this is a simply
need that 2 relay could resolve it.

73 de Fabio I4UFH








  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Patrick 9A5CW
  To: support at win-test.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [WT-support] SO2R on 2 networked computers


  Hi WT so2r users ;)
  I agree with Zoli abt using net interlock in so/so2r setup 
when  use 2
PCs... or more ;)
  With one PC and simple so2r box you cant TX with both TXs 
at the same
time, you can try to use 2 simple transistored keyers (CW 
mode).. no need of
Mk/Ez/etc... But with 2 networked PCs its easy to cheat!
  PC 1. RUN CQ --
  PC 2. at the same when 1st is on the air , 2nd working new 
mult or needed
station ...

  Its against the rules to have 2 signals in SO on 2 diff. 
bands at the same
time?

  73





  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Zoli Pitman HA1AG 
<ha1ag at yahoo.com>
wrote:

    Hi Larry,


    > Zoli Pitman HA1AG a écrit :

    >> Did U implement TX inhibiting over the network for 
SO2R/two computers
?

    > No. We consider it must be done externally to prevent 
any propagation
    > delays and dead-lock situations.
    >
    > 73
    >
    > Larry - F6FVY


    Maybe a TX inhibit input would overcome this if U don't 
want to code it
into the networking protocol. Breaking the PTT line on the 
other radio only
could make the op sound like a lid if the interrupted 
message is still being
played when the interrupting message finishes.

    73, zoli ha1ag





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