[WT-support] WPX S/N bug

[I4UFH HRS]

Even recent WPX had been a enter with declared 2 CQ signals on same band, i 
think that this is prohibits due the definition of signals or transmitter.
The rule clear define Transmitter no Signals, so in my opinion one 
trasmitter means a only one signal regardless the same time. Even the common 
interpretation is not a rule this need to be cleared from the WPX commitee. 
M2 or MM talks about transmitters , so following the same rules if this is 
valid for M2 / MM  why  use a "common interpretation" for MS ? In other 
world the Transmitter must send the serial numbers without holes in the 
sequence.

my 2 cents

73 de I4UFH




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tõnno Vähk" <Tonno.Vahk at gildbankers.com>
To: <support at win-test.com>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WT-support] WPX S/N bug


> What is clear about it?:)
>
> The whole issue that has been around for a while is if one transmitter 
> means "One signal in the air at a time". And that has been the common 
> interpretation I understand so far as naturally all big M/S and M/2 
> stations use more than 2 stations. Otherwise M/2 clearly talks about two 
> transmitters.
>
> So you can have 10 stations ready to transmit scanning one band if you 
> want, just make sure you have one signal in the air at a time. Same logic 
> for M/M.
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: support-bounces at win-test.com [mailto:support-bounces at win-test.com] 
> On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:23 PM
> To: support at win-test.com
> Subject: Re: [WT-support] WPX S/N bug
>
> http://www.cqwpx.com/rules.htm
>
> "(a) Single-Transmitter (MULTI-ONE): Only one transmitter and one band
> permitted during a 10-minute period. Exception: One-and only one-other
> band may be used during a 10-minute period if-and only if-the station
> worked is a new multiplier"
>
> Seems pretty clear.
>
> Peter G4MJS
>
> On 03/04/2009, Tom W8JI <w8ji at w8ji.com> wrote:
>> Is there a link to that Bob? The rules I read and the FAQ
>> does not appear to prohibit that.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Henderson" <bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
>> To: <support at win-test.com>; "Tom W8JI" <w8ji at w8ji.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WT-support] WPX S/N bug
>>
>>
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > Surely sub-section V,D,a of the 2009 WPX rules
>> > specifically prohibits two
>> > transmitters on the same band ?
>> >
>> > Am I missing something?
>> >
>> > Bob, 5B4AGN
>> >
>> > 2009/4/3 Tom W8JI <w8ji at w8ji.com>
>> >
>> >> Wintest has a bug in the serial numbers given during the
>> >> WPX.
>> >>
>> >> When running M1 people are allowed to have two
>> >> transmitters
>> >> on the same band. When that is done, if both stations are
>> >> working people at the same time period, the SN is not
>> >> reserved or held  until the QSO is logged. This can and
>> >> does
>> >> result in a bad SN for one or both stations.
>> >>
>> >> The FAQ for WPX states:
>> >>
>> >> Our logging software caused us to give out duplicate
>> >> serial
>> >> numbers or to give numbers out of sequence. Is this a
>> >> problem?
>> >>
>> >>  No, but only if your log shows the exchange that you
>> >> actually sent. Each QSO line of the Cabrillo log contains
>> >> the sent and received information for that QSO.  As long
>> >> as
>> >> that line shows what you actually sent to the other
>> >> station,
>> >> the log checking software will score it correctly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So if the number was reserved and not used it would not
>> >> be a
>> >> problem, or if the SAME number was sent it would not be a
>> >> problem. What is a problem is the software changing the
>> >> number after the exchange was sent when the contact is
>> >> logged.
>> >>
>> >> N1MM holds the SN once a call is partially entered. This
>> >> is
>> >> the correct way to do WPX when two radios happen to be on
>> >> the same band. Since the SN is wrong in M1, it is
>> >> probably
>> >> wrong in any class where multiple stations can be on the
>> >> same band.
>> >>
>> >> 73 Tom
>> >>
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