[WT-support] SO2R and LPT - next attempt

[Franta Bendl]

Hi Bob, thank you for the assistance.

I see, the only way to realize my project is to buy a webcam, install it 
in front of my contest screen and check the video signal for yellow 
square ;-(

hpe cu all in the contest
73 de Franta/DJ0ZY


On Tuesday 25 November 2008 20:02, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
> You're only other option is to use [Alt-K] keyboard mode instead of
> paddles to send confirmations.  Sorry, this is not a bug, it is just
> the way Win-Test was designed to handle the radio switching.
>
> If Win-Test code was changed to immediately move the transmit focus
> to the "Yellow" Radio 2 window, the repeating CQ on Radio 1 wouldn't
> work right any more.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Franta Bendl <dj0zy at i--i.de> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > yes, I know this way but I would like make it automatically. It
> > means my controller knows which radio has the focus and leads the
> > CW-Signal from the paddle to this radio. But I believe for such
> > control delivers WT to the LPT not enough informations.
> >
> > It is not easy and error-prone at the second day of the contest to
> > decide R1 or R2, manual switch ([*]) necessary or not if you want
> > send simple "cfm" back to "14?".
> >
> > 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY
> >
> > On Tuesday 25 November 2008 13:30, Mikael Larsmark wrote:
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > What you do is that you use Caps lock to enter calls into the 2nd
> > > radio window and if you wish to send with the paddles and work
> > > that station you press * and the call you entered in the 2nd
> > > radio window will appear on the "main" window. Try that instead.
> > >
> > > Mike, SM2WMV (SJ2W)
> > >
> > > Franta Bendl wrote:
> > > > Hi Bob,
> > > >
> > > > it's OK, this is the way exactly I use. But it is not my
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > As I wrote in my email two weeks ago. I switch the CW-Signal
> > > > (either from PC or paadle) between both radios using home made
> > > > controller using the pin 14 (active radio) of the LPT. To
> > > > manage the CW-Signal from PC with pin 14 is easy and
> > > > straightforward. But to manage the CW-Signal from paddle
> > > > doesn't not work.
> > > >
> > > > So I am looking for possibility to know (from the controller
> > > > sight using LPT) which radio is just focused because commonly I
> > > > want send with the paddle to the focused radio:
> > > >
> > > > Using [Cap locks] doesn't work because the pin 14 doesn't
> > > > (quite) follow the radio focus.
> > > > With [*] I can correctly switch the paddle but the CQing of the
> > > > "other" radio will be stopped with every call check.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if my description of the problem was not quite clear in
> > > > the last message.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday 25 November 2008 10:53, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
> > > >> Franta,
> > > >> Try this:
> > > >>
> > > >>    1. RPTDELAY [Enter]
> > > >>    2. Set the delay to about 2.2 seconds
> > > >>    3. Check "Enable automatic repeating CQ" and press [OK]
> > > >>    4. Press [F1].  CQ starts.
> > > >>    5. Press [CapsLock].  Note the the repeating CQs continues
> > > >> transmitting on Radio 1.
> > > >>    6. Enter and dupe check all you want in the secondary radio
> > > >> window, the CQ keeps repeating on Radio 1.
> > > >>    7. Press [F4] to make a call on the secondary radio.  CQing
> > > >> stops immediately on Radio 1.
> > > >>    8. Press [F2] to send your exchange, then press [Enter] to
> > > >> log it 9. Press [CapsLock] and [F1] to resume the CQ cycle on
> > > >> Radio 1 10. Go back to Step 5 to enter more calls in the
> > > >> Secondary Radio window 11. If someone answers your CQ, press
> > > >> [CapsLock] to switch back to Radio 1 and press [Escape] to
> > > >> stop the repeat, or press [CapsLock] and start typing the call
> > > >> as this will also interrupt the repeating CQ.
> > > >>
> > > >> This technique works OK for me except when I want to transmit
> > > >> on Radio 2 with the paddle.  To do that I have to press a
> > > >> function key first, or use [*] to swap windows.
> > > >>
> > > >> Perhaps CT1BOH can recommend a simpler way to do SO2R that
> > > >> doesn't involve pressing so many buttons.  I've tried using
> > > >> the "Shift" key to enter data in the secondary radio window,
> > > >> but I find it makes too much work for my pinky fingers.  I am
> > > >> a touch-typist, so I keep switching from left Shift to right
> > > >> Shift as I type and that's even more work.  CapsLock is a
> > > >> little easier.
> > > >>
> > > >> 73,
> > > >> Bob, N6TV
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Franta Bendl <dj0zy at i--i.de>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >>> Hi Bob,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> thank you very much for the reply!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yes I know and you are right, the using of [*] covers my wish
> > > >>> to change the status of pin 14 following the radio focus.
> > > >>> Unfortunately there is an other issue, try this steps:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Precondition: Advanced SO2R, focus R1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Press [F1] - start CQ on R1
> > > >>> Press [*] - switch active radio to R2
> > > >>> Press any Key (letter) e.g. to check a call heard on R2
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Now the R1 stops the sending of CQ imediately after the first
> > > >>> letter is typed in for R2!? So it is not really usefull in my
> > > >>> case because the new start of CQ ([*] [F1] [*]) on the R1 is
> > > >>> necessary after every checked call on the R2. It might be OK
> > > >>> in "auto send" mode but it doesn't make sense if "auto send"
> > > >>> mode is disabled.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It is also clear that there remains a lack of informations
> > > >>> because it is not possible to transfer all informations (PTT,
> > > >>> active radio [focus], active radio [sending]) using only 2
> > > >>> bits (pins - PTT[16], ActiveRadio[14]). Maybe could following
> > > >>> logic increase the clarity?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1. Pin 14 follows the active radio (focus)
> > > >>> 2. for repeating CQ it switch for the time of send (following
> > > >>> PTT) to the sending radio
> > > >>> 3. an entered character/number stops the CQ on the other
> > > >>> radio only if "auto send" mode is enabled
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY