[WT-support] SO2R and LPT - next attempt

Bob Wilson, N6TV n6tv at arrl.net
Tue Nov 25 20:02:46 CET 2008


You're only other option is to use [Alt-K] keyboard mode instead of paddles
to send confirmations.  Sorry, this is not a bug, it is just the way
Win-Test was designed to handle the radio switching.

If Win-Test code was changed to immediately move the transmit focus to the
"Yellow" Radio 2 window, the repeating CQ on Radio 1 wouldn't work right any
more.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Franta Bendl <dj0zy at i--i.de> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> yes, I know this way but I would like make it automatically. It means my
> controller knows which radio has the focus and leads the CW-Signal from
> the paddle to this radio. But I believe for such control delivers WT to
> the LPT not enough informations.
>
> It is not easy and error-prone at the second day of the contest to
> decide R1 or R2, manual switch ([*]) necessary or not if you want send
> simple "cfm" back to "14?".
>
> 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY
>
>
> On Tuesday 25 November 2008 13:30, Mikael Larsmark wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > What you do is that you use Caps lock to enter calls into the 2nd
> > radio window and if you wish to send with the paddles and work that
> > station you press * and the call you entered in the 2nd radio window
> > will appear on the "main" window. Try that instead.
> >
> > Mike, SM2WMV (SJ2W)
> >
> > Franta Bendl wrote:
> > > Hi Bob,
> > >
> > > it's OK, this is the way exactly I use. But it is not my problem.
> > >
> > > As I wrote in my email two weeks ago. I switch the CW-Signal
> > > (either from PC or paadle) between both radios using home made
> > > controller using the pin 14 (active radio) of the LPT. To manage
> > > the CW-Signal from PC with pin 14 is easy and straightforward. But
> > > to manage the CW-Signal from paddle doesn't not work.
> > >
> > > So I am looking for possibility to know (from the controller sight
> > > using LPT) which radio is just focused because commonly I want send
> > > with the paddle to the focused radio:
> > >
> > > Using [Cap locks] doesn't work because the pin 14 doesn't (quite)
> > > follow the radio focus.
> > > With [*] I can correctly switch the paddle but the CQing of the
> > > "other" radio will be stopped with every call check.
> > >
> > > Sorry if my description of the problem was not quite clear in the
> > > last message.
> > >
> > > 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 25 November 2008 10:53, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
> > >> Franta,
> > >> Try this:
> > >>
> > >>    1. RPTDELAY [Enter]
> > >>    2. Set the delay to about 2.2 seconds
> > >>    3. Check "Enable automatic repeating CQ" and press [OK]
> > >>    4. Press [F1].  CQ starts.
> > >>    5. Press [CapsLock].  Note the the repeating CQs continues
> > >> transmitting on Radio 1.
> > >>    6. Enter and dupe check all you want in the secondary radio
> > >> window, the CQ keeps repeating on Radio 1.
> > >>    7. Press [F4] to make a call on the secondary radio.  CQing
> > >> stops immediately on Radio 1.
> > >>    8. Press [F2] to send your exchange, then press [Enter] to log
> > >> it 9. Press [CapsLock] and [F1] to resume the CQ cycle on Radio 1
> > >> 10. Go back to Step 5 to enter more calls in the Secondary Radio
> > >> window 11. If someone answers your CQ, press [CapsLock] to switch
> > >> back to Radio 1 and press [Escape] to stop the repeat, or press
> > >> [CapsLock] and start typing the call as this will also interrupt
> > >> the repeating CQ.
> > >>
> > >> This technique works OK for me except when I want to transmit on
> > >> Radio 2 with the paddle.  To do that I have to press a function
> > >> key first, or use [*] to swap windows.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps CT1BOH can recommend a simpler way to do SO2R that doesn't
> > >> involve pressing so many buttons.  I've tried using the "Shift"
> > >> key to enter data in the secondary radio window, but I find it
> > >> makes too much work for my pinky fingers.  I am a touch-typist, so
> > >> I keep switching from left Shift to right Shift as I type and
> > >> that's even more work.  CapsLock is a little easier.
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >> Bob, N6TV
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Franta Bendl <dj0zy at i--i.de>
> wrote:
> > >>> Hi Bob,
> > >>>
> > >>> thank you very much for the reply!
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes I know and you are right, the using of [*] covers my wish to
> > >>> change the status of pin 14 following the radio focus.
> > >>> Unfortunately there is an other issue, try this steps:
> > >>>
> > >>> Precondition: Advanced SO2R, focus R1
> > >>>
> > >>> Press [F1] - start CQ on R1
> > >>> Press [*] - switch active radio to R2
> > >>> Press any Key (letter) e.g. to check a call heard on R2
> > >>>
> > >>> Now the R1 stops the sending of CQ imediately after the first
> > >>> letter is typed in for R2!? So it is not really usefull in my
> > >>> case because the new start of CQ ([*] [F1] [*]) on the R1 is
> > >>> necessary after every checked call on the R2. It might be OK in
> > >>> "auto send" mode but it doesn't make sense if "auto send" mode is
> > >>> disabled.
> > >>>
> > >>> It is also clear that there remains a lack of informations
> > >>> because it is not possible to transfer all informations (PTT,
> > >>> active radio [focus], active radio [sending]) using only 2 bits
> > >>> (pins - PTT[16], ActiveRadio[14]). Maybe could following logic
> > >>> increase the clarity?
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Pin 14 follows the active radio (focus)
> > >>> 2. for repeating CQ it switch for the time of send (following
> > >>> PTT) to the sending radio
> > >>> 3. an entered character/number stops the CQ on the other radio
> > >>> only if "auto send" mode is enabled
> > >>>
> > >>> 73 de Franta/DJ0ZY
> > >
>
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