[WT-support] WT and Winkey

Fri Feb 9 17:27:57 CET 2007

Hello Rudy, I apologise if my comments came across as abrasive. Yes, the 
development team are doing a great job and there are many aspects of WT 
which I really like. My comments were more aimed at needing at least an 
acknowledgment than actual implementation. It is difficult to know if a 
bug raised has been added to the list and allocated a number. I guess I 
got used to the N1MM system! Simon M0CLW, who I know, commented that the 
fact I saw my own posting indicates it is being looked at. That isn't a 
very professional approach!

I have raised a number of problems with WT / WinKey / mHam Router 
interface and I am pleased that these are being addressed as I wasn't 
sure. I have asked for two other points to be added to the list. I will 
need to add another one which I have now find twice on the latest 
version. I guess whilst ever I am experiencing these problems I am not 
able to move on and learn about the other good facilities.

Regarding speeding up/down, yes I agree it is a personal choice, which 
is why I would prefer to see it not as default. Enough on that one!!

In conclusion just to say that I operated in the FOC Marathon last 
weekend and despite the poor HF conditions (why only at a weekend?!) 
made 824 Qs over 6 bands. Apart from the interface problems I have 
raised WT performed excellently with rapid moves around, sometimes 6 
bands in less than two minutes. It was a pleasure to use. The GUI is 
also very good in that respect. That makes about 1700 contest Qs so far 
this year.

Vy 73   Chris G3SJJ

Rudolf Schwenger wrote:
> Chris,
>
> sorry, but the last para of your mail raises my blood pressure a bit. 
> In my mind and from my two years experience with the WinTest 
> development team these guys are second to none when it comes to 
> service, speed of reply and precise action in case of bugs. The speed 
> with which they turn out new releases is unparalleld.
>
> Whenever I had questions or reported a bug I got an answer the same 
> day or over night. Fantastic!
>
> Admittedly I didn't follow your correspondence with the development 
> team too closely although the problems addressed by you - embedding 
> the microKEYER/WINKEYER in WT - have also been and still are my 
> problems. However, I guess it doesn't really help the guys to mention 
> basically the same issues time and again. To give you an example: I 
> think I have read at least three or four times in your messages that 
> you consider the speed step in transmitting the 599 as poor 
> cw-practice and you would prefer not to have this feature as a 
> default. If that's your considered opinion: Fine. I don't share it. 
> The 599/5nn is garbage, an absolutely useless piece of information. 
> But required by the rules of most contests. So why not apply common 
> sense and deal with it as a piece of garbage? And it is so easy to 
> take the speed up/speed down out of the F-Key messages! Is it really 
> worth mentioning this topic at all?
>
> What I wanted to say is that in my oppinion the guys are doing a 
> fantastic job for all of us and we should avoid everything which tends 
> to distract their attention from or their enthusiasm of continuing to 
> develop an even better tool for all of us.
>
> vy 73 de Rudy, DJ3WE
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
> To: <support at win-test.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WT-support] WT and Winkey
>
>
>> Thanks Kenth.
>>
>> Your suggestion number 1 appears to have stabilised it for now. There 
>> is still a difference between speeds when I transfer from Logger32 to 
>> Wintest.  30wpm in Logger translates to 44wpm in Wintest. Well out 
>> the range for most contests. I have also found that if I leave a 
>> small delay between sending on the paddle and hitting an F Key, the 
>> problem of F Key not transmitting is avoided. Obviously a question of 
>> a timing issue in WT that I have not found before in K8CC's NA, 
>> Writelog or N1MM.
>>
>> I always take out the + and - in the message. These should not be 
>> default as they are unnecessary for 99.999% of contest operating and 
>> are poor operating anyway.
>>
>> Transmitting of the character ' is still present when using Alt 
>> F9/F10 to make an increase in speed.
>>
>> Not sure if the development team have seen my recent posting as yet 
>> again there has been no acknowledgment! What happened to good old 
>> courtesy, eh?
>>
>> Chris G3SJJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenth Johansson wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> I don´t think I have the full soloution for the winkey problems 
>>> together with the microkeyer but I have changed the following in my 
>>> setup:
>>>
>>> 1. Options > Interfaces coniguration >Winkey > Configure. The 
>>> default value for DTR, RTS pins are -Handshake-. I have changed to 
>>> -Always on-.
>>>
>>> 2. F-messages. I don´t use + - values to change speed in a message.
>>>
>>> Theese changes have helped me.
>>>
>>> Kenth
>>> sm6dyk
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
>>> To: <support at win-test.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:37 PM
>>> Subject: [WT-support] WT and Winkey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there any progress on making WT work correctly with Winkey yet?
>>>>
>>>> I was operating in the FOC Marathon last weeeknd and had really bad 
>>>> problems. It is still very unstable. At one stage I had closed the 
>>>> computer down during a rest period. On rebooting at 0600, it took 
>>>> me 30 minutes to get to a stable situation, consequently I missed 
>>>> some importna pre-sunrise DX QSOs. At first, keying from the 
>>>> paddles connected to mHam Keyer was normal, but when I pressed an F 
>>>> key, CW was sent to the PC loudspeaker instead of keying the radio, 
>>>> re-booting and reopening WT produced the same situation. Eventually 
>>>> I got to stage when WT was keying the radio correctly, but the 
>>>> speed variation between internal CW and via mH Keyer was again 
>>>> apparent. It is not good operating practice to transmit the 
>>>> character  '  when changing speed up or down using Alt F9/10. Also 
>>>> at times to would just send the first character of the F key 
>>>> message. eg F instead of FOC G3SJJ G3SJJ FOC.
>>>>
>>>> I am now setting up for RSGB 1.8MHz Contest, and again the  '  
>>>> character is transmitted at Alt F9/10. In independent speed both 
>>>> speeds are currently set to 30wpm. The computer speed is correct 
>>>> whilst paddle sent speed is much slower. Adjusting the speed knob 
>>>> so that the speeds are the same shows 30 and 34.
>>>>
>>>> Earlier in this test session if I sent on the paddle and then hit 
>>>> an F Key nothing happened, as I reported after CQWW. Now, if I send 
>>>> a paddle message then hit an F key the first character is dropped. 
>>>> EG (Paddle) Pete    (Computer)  NN  instead of 5NN, or Est instead 
>>>> of Test. This only appears to happen when there is nothing in the 
>>>> callsign field.
>>>>
>>>> I am now at the stage when using WT is more of a liability than an 
>>>> asset and each time I run the program I ask myself what new 
>>>> features I will find!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73 Chris G3SJJ
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