[WT-support] WT and Winkey

Fri Feb 9 15:27:11 CET 2007

Chris,

sorry, but the last para of your mail raises my blood pressure a bit. In my 
mind and from my two years experience with the WinTest development team 
these guys are second to none when it comes to service, speed of reply and 
precise action in case of bugs. The speed with which they turn out new 
releases is unparalleld.

Whenever I had questions or reported a bug I got an answer the same day or 
over night. Fantastic!

Admittedly I didn't follow your correspondence with the development team too 
closely although the problems addressed by you - embedding the 
microKEYER/WINKEYER in WT - have also been and still are my problems. 
However, I guess it doesn't really help the guys to mention basically the 
same issues time and again. To give you an example: I think I have read at 
least three or four times in your messages that you consider the speed step 
in transmitting the 599 as poor cw-practice and you would prefer not to have 
this feature as a default. If that's your considered opinion: Fine. I don't 
share it. The 599/5nn is garbage, an absolutely useless piece of 
information. But required by the rules of most contests. So why not apply 
common sense and deal with it as a piece of garbage? And it is so easy to 
take the speed up/speed down out of the F-Key messages! Is it really worth 
mentioning this topic at all?

What I wanted to say is that in my oppinion the guys are doing a fantastic 
job for all of us and we should avoid everything which tends to distract 
their attention from or their enthusiasm of continuing to develop an even 
better tool for all of us.

vy 73 de Rudy, DJ3WE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
To: <support at win-test.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT-support] WT and Winkey

> Thanks Kenth.
>
> Your suggestion number 1 appears to have stabilised it for now. There is 
> still a difference between speeds when I transfer from Logger32 to 
> Wintest.  30wpm in Logger translates to 44wpm in Wintest. Well out the 
> range for most contests. I have also found that if I leave a small delay 
> between sending on the paddle and hitting an F Key, the problem of F Key 
> not transmitting is avoided. Obviously a question of a timing issue in WT 
> that I have not found before in K8CC's NA, Writelog or N1MM.
>
> I always take out the + and - in the message. These should not be default 
> as they are unnecessary for 99.999% of contest operating and are poor 
> operating anyway.
>
> Transmitting of the character ' is still present when using Alt F9/F10 to 
> make an increase in speed.
>
> Not sure if the development team have seen my recent posting as yet again 
> there has been no acknowledgment! What happened to good old courtesy, eh?
>
> Chris G3SJJ
>
>
>
> Kenth Johansson wrote:
>> Chris,
>> I don´t think I have the full soloution for the winkey problems together 
>> with the microkeyer but I have changed the following in my setup:
>>
>> 1. Options > Interfaces coniguration >Winkey > Configure. The default 
>> value for DTR, RTS pins are -Handshake-. I have changed to -Always on-.
>>
>> 2. F-messages. I don´t use + - values to change speed in a message.
>>
>> Theese changes have helped me.
>>
>> Kenth
>> sm6dyk
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
>> To: <support at win-test.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:37 PM
>> Subject: [WT-support] WT and Winkey
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there any progress on making WT work correctly with Winkey yet?
>>>
>>> I was operating in the FOC Marathon last weeeknd and had really bad 
>>> problems. It is still very unstable. At one stage I had closed the 
>>> computer down during a rest period. On rebooting at 0600, it took me 30 
>>> minutes to get to a stable situation, consequently I missed some 
>>> importna pre-sunrise DX QSOs. At first, keying from the paddles 
>>> connected to mHam Keyer was normal, but when I pressed an F key, CW was 
>>> sent to the PC loudspeaker instead of keying the radio, re-booting and 
>>> reopening WT produced the same situation. Eventually I got to stage when 
>>> WT was keying the radio correctly, but the speed variation between 
>>> internal CW and via mH Keyer was again apparent. It is not good 
>>> operating practice to transmit the character  '  when changing speed up 
>>> or down using Alt F9/10. Also at times to would just send the first 
>>> character of the F key message. eg F instead of FOC G3SJJ G3SJJ FOC.
>>>
>>> I am now setting up for RSGB 1.8MHz Contest, and again the  '  character 
>>> is transmitted at Alt F9/10. In independent speed both speeds are 
>>> currently set to 30wpm. The computer speed is correct whilst paddle sent 
>>> speed is much slower. Adjusting the speed knob so that the speeds are 
>>> the same shows 30 and 34.
>>>
>>> Earlier in this test session if I sent on the paddle and then hit an F 
>>> Key nothing happened, as I reported after CQWW. Now, if I send a paddle 
>>> message then hit an F key the first character is dropped. EG (Paddle) 
>>> Pete    (Computer)  NN  instead of 5NN, or Est instead of Test. This 
>>> only appears to happen when there is nothing in the callsign field.
>>>
>>> I am now at the stage when using WT is more of a liability than an asset 
>>> and each time I run the program I ask myself what new features I will 
>>> find!!
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 Chris G3SJJ
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