[WT-support] Radio Control Problem

[Matthias Jelen]

Hi Olivier,

I played around with WinTest and several radios this sunday afternoon.

First, I connected a ICOM IC-706 MK II and selected IC-706 MK II. 
Everythnig works fine. Also the IC - Generic setting with the proper 
hex-address in WT.INI is working.

Then, I connected a IC-751A and selected IC-751A. This one works 
unstable in direction PC -> Radio. Frequency and Mode polling is not 
working. Setting the frequency from WinTest works in approx. 20 % (For 
example, I have to type abt. five times 14100 in WinTest until the TRX 
changes frequency.
Same problem when I try IC - Generic.

Finally I tried again my OMNI VI. This one works fine in direction PC -> 
Radio, but still no polling. No difference if i choose IC-735 (TenTec 
claims that this one is compatible), OMNI VI or Icom Generic.

Then I tried with an CI-V freeware which I found on the web. If I 
perform a frequency or mode query, all three radios seem to answer.

This made me curious, so I installed a serial port sniffer software and 
logged the traffic between WinTest and the radio. Here the results:
(I hope it is still readable and not totally re-formated)

TenTec OMNI VI (Not working):

Request: 17.07.2005 14:42:08.17764 (+0.0000 seconds)

 FE FE 04 E0 04 FD                                 þþ.à.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:42:08.27764 (+0.1001 seconds)

 FE FE 04 E0 04 FD FE FE E0 04 04 01 FD            þþ.à.ýþþà...ý  

Request: 17.07.2005 14:42:09.37864 (+1.1016 seconds)

 FE FE 04 E0 03 FD                                 þþ.à.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:42:09.47964 (+0.0901 seconds)

 FE FE 04 E0 03 FD FE FE E0 04 03 00 00 10 14 00   þþ.à.ýþþà.......
 FD                                                ý


ICOM IC 706MK II (Working fine!):

Request: 17.07.2005 14:46:02.85764 (+0.0000 seconds)

 FE FE 4E E0 04 FD                                 þþNà.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:46:02.95764 (+0.1001 seconds)

 FE FE 4E E0 04 FD FE FE E0 4E 04 03 01 FD         þþNà.ýþþàN...ý 

Request: 17.07.2005 14:46:02.25764 (+0.3004 seconds)

 FE FE 4E E0 03 FD                                 þþNà.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:46:03.35764 (+0.0701 seconds)

 FE FE 4E E0 03 FD FE FE E0 4E 03 00 00 10 14 00   þþNà.ýþþàN......
 FD                                                ý

ICOM IC 751A (Not Working!):

Request: 17.07.2005 14:53:12.04864 (+0.0000 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 04 FD                                 þþ.à.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:53:12.14864 (+0.0701 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 04 FD FE FE E0 1C 04 01 FD            þþ.à.ýþþà...ý  

Request: 17.07.2005 14:53:13.35064 (+1.1016 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 03 FD                                 þþ.à.ý         

Answer: 17.07.2005 14:53:13.46064 (+0.1001 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 03 FD FE FE E0 1C 03 00 00 10 14 00   þþ.à.ýþþà.......
 FD                                                ý

I can see no difference... When I log the traffic between the CI-V tool 
and the radio, everythings looks exactly like this - except it is working ?!

Trying to set the Frequency of the IC751A using the Icom Generic setting:
This works sometimes...

Request: 17.07.2005 15:09:05.78464 (+0.0000 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 05 00 00 00 28 00 FD FE FE 1C E0 05   þþ.à....(.ýþþ.à.
 00 00 00 28 00 FD FE FE 1C E0 06 01 FD FE FE 1C   ...(.ýþþ.à..ýþþ.
 E0 06 01 FD                                       à..ý           

Answer: 17.07.2005 15:09:05.86464 (+0.0501 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 05 00 00 00 28 00 FD FE FE 1C E0 05   þþ.à....(.ýþþ.à.
 00 00 00 28 00 FD FE FE 1C E0 06 01 FD FE FE 1C   ...(.ýþþ.à..ýþþ.
 E0 06 01 FD FE FE E0 1C FB FD                     à..ýþþà.ûý

The command seems to be repeated several times...

Setting the Frequency of the 751A using the CI-V commander freeware:
Request: 17.07.2005 15:18:55.93764 (+0.2504 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 05 00 00 00 28 00 FD                  þþ.à....(.ý    

Answer: 17.07.2005 15:18:55.93764 (+0.0000 seconds)

 FE FE 1C E0 05 00 00 00 28 00 FD FE FE E0 1C FB   þþ.à....(.ýþþà.û
 FD

This time the change frequency command is send only once.      

Just to be sure I installed WinTest on a second PC (one XP, one Win98), 
but that made no difference.

So, long mail this time, hope that this could help to solve the problem. 
Please let me know if I can help with testing or more information.

73s from munich,

Matthias, DK4YJ

> Halo Matthias,
>
>> I´m just setting up the station for the IARU HFWCC. I connected my 
>> TenTec OMNI VI+ to PC and chose the OMNI VI as radio 1.
>> The radio reacts to all commands from the PC. But the VFO - display 
>> and the
>> bandmap are not updated.
>>
>> The CDE is switched on in the radio. If I check with an other program 
>> (ct),
>> the bandmap is updated whenever I change the frequency on the radio.
>>
>> I´m using the Icom - Address 04 for the TenTec.
>
>
> Are you using the "IC-generic" entry in the Interface configuration 
> window, with the following line in the [Interfaces] section of your 
> WT.INI file:
>
> IcomGenericRadio1=04h
>
> F6IFY claims to get his Omni VI working that way.
>
> BTW, I'm afraid that Win-Test does not manage properly "handshaking" 
> on the serial port. This can be a problem with some of the Tentec 
> radios, if you using a straight through serial cable. This has been 
> reported at least by W0RSR.
>
> This should be fixed with a jumper between RTS and CTS (Pin 7 and 8) 
> on the radio side.
>
> 73,