[WT-support] X-QSO:

fabio.grisafi at libero.it fabio.grisafi at libero.it
Fri Nov 2 17:03:39 CET 2012


Hi Bob!

>From the CQWW Contest Committee FAQ about M/S:


What should we do if our RUNNER SIGNAL moves to a new band and starts to 
invite contacts (call CQ, QRZ, TEST, “my call,” etc.) before the 10 minutes are 
up?

Any transmission before the 10 minutes are up is against the rules. If you 
have not yet made a contact on the new band, stop immediately and wait for the 
10 minute period. If you have made some QSOs, those contacts are in violation 
of the ten minute rule and they will be deducted, with penalty. Calling CQ 
“early” (before the ten minute period) and intentionally not logging any 
callers (in order to take/hold a frequency) is a violation of the rules and 
will not be tolerated (Red Card).

What should we do if our MULTIPLIER SIGNAL moves to a new band and completes 
the QSO with the needed multiplier, but it is before the allowed 10 minute 
period? We do not want to lose the multiplier!

You have violated the ten minute rule. You may contact the same station again, 
on the same band, when the ten minute rule has been complied with. If you do 
work him again, be sure to log him again. If you work him twice (once in 
violation and once in compliance with the ten minute rule), be sure to log both 
of the QSOs. Mark the first contact (the one in violation of the ten minute 
rule) with X-QSO. This will remove the QSO from your log, but still give credit 
to the other station.

Is there a limit on the number of times we can use X-QSO in our log?

X-QSO is intended for correction of occasional mistakes that happen during the 
contest. If the committee decides that X-QSO is being used to avoid the 10 
minute rule the log will be subject to possible reclassification or other 
committee action, as deemed appropriate..

SO ... THIS IS THE WAY I SEE RIGHT:
When you declare (with a QSO: line) a multiplier made in error of the 10 
minutes rule the CQWW Contest Committee will give you a penalty. Many guys use 
to remove those QSO from the log and this gives penalty to the station they 
worked. The only one way to have not a penalty and to not generate a penalty to 
the worked station is to sign the QSO with a X-QSO:

So, I suggest that WinTest should have a way to generate X-QSO: in the 
cabrillo file.

I think I am following the rules 100% this way as we didn't modify the log but 
we are declaring some mistakes.

Regards,
Fabio - IT9GSF.

N6TV wrote:

Win-Test does not provide any way to mark a QSO as "invalid", nor any way to 
generate "X-QSO:" (which is not an officially documented feature of Cabrillo).


But, there is no need to mark such QSOs in your Cabrillo log.  Such post-
contest editing is strongly discouraged these days.  Just turn in the original 
log, and the log checking software will automatically handle non-mult QSOs made 
by the mult station.  I don't think there is any QSO penalty for such QSOs; you 
just lose those contacts.  The same applies to 10-minute rule violations.73,
Bob, N6TV


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:05 AM, fabio.grisafi at libero.it <fabio.grisafi at libero.
it> wrote:
Hi Guys!

After checking our log (II9P M/S in CQWW SSB) I have found some "non 
multiplier" stations worked by the MULT operator.
I didn't want to delete these QSO (as recomended and because I don't want 
these stations loose IT9 multiplier) so I inserted "X-QSO:" before the line in 
the cabrillo file.

Then I reloaded the cabrillo file in WinTest, importing it with FILE - IMPORT 
- CABRILLO option to check if the operation was OK and if there were any bad 
mults yet. I tested the log with the TOOLS - CHECK LOG - CHECK THAT QSO ON MULT 
STATION ARE MULTS and found no problems.

Then I did a FILE - CREATE LOG FILES to generate the final cabrillo file with 
comments, etc.

This was a bad operation because all X-QSO: lines disappeared in the final 
cabrillo file !

I had to resume the old ii9p.log cabrillo file and edit the comments lines 
with a text editor.

Is this a bug by WT or I am using the software in a bad way? How to mantain X-
QSO: lines in the log cabrillo file?

Best regards es 73 (and THANK YOU FOR THIS SUPERB SOFTWARE AS WE HADN'T ANY 
KIND OF NETWORK PROBLEMS WITH EIGHT OPERATING NETWORKED DESKS 4 RUN/MULT + 4 
SUPPORT !),

Fabio - IT9GSF (II9T / II9P).


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