[WT-support] Secondary Window problem

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

It sounds like you forgot to mark one or both of these options:

Operating | Shift Binds to Secondary Radio
Operating | CapsLock Binds to Secondary Radio

If neither one is checked, it is not possible to use the secondary radio
window as it was intended to be used, so the Run / S&P status of the
secondary radio won't matter.  In effect, you are always using the primary
radio, and selecting either Radio 1 or Radio 2 as your primary radio.

Do you see the Secondary Radio window turn Yellow?  If not, the Secondary
Radio window is not being used, and that is the problem.

This is how it is supposed to work:

   1. Primary radio window in Run mode (it says "RUN" in the Clock window)
   2. Secondary radio window in S&P mode ("S&P" radio button is marked
   there)
   3. Operating  | CapsLock binds to secondary Radio is checked
   4. Press F1.  RUN message (CQ) is sent on the primary radio
   5. Press CapsLock.  Secondary Radio window turns yellow
   6. Press F1.  S&P message (my call) is sent on secondary radio
   7. Press CapsLock.  Secondary Radio window turns white
   8. Press F1.  CQ message is sent on the primary radio

Remember, Radio 1 and Radio 2 don't matter.  Only the Primary and Secondary
radio matter.  You can have Radio 1 be Primary or Secondary.  You can have
Radio 2 be Primary or Secondary.  When you press [ * ],  Radio1 and Radio2
swap positions between the main logging window (always Primary) and the
Secondary radio window, but the RUN / S&P status of the Primary and
Secondary radio windows always stays the same until you explicitly change it
via Ctrl-Tab or clicking on the little circles.

If you always want Radio 1 to be in RUN mode and you always want Radio 2 to
be in S&P mode, use CapsLock only, and never press the star key.  Keep Radio
1 in the Primary window and Radio 2 in the secondary radio window, at all
times.

In sum, there seems to be no bug here, just a misunderstanding about what
"Primary", "Secondary", "Radio 1" and "Radio 2" mean.

Things would be a lot easier to understand if there were simply a "Left
radio" and a "Right radio", and two identical side-by-side logging windows
dedicated to each, but that design was rejected or never considered, for
reasons unknown.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Yuri VE3XB <ve3xb at rogers.com> wrote:

>  Bob,
>
> Thanks for the prompt reply.
>
> The radios send the same CW messages no matter what box on secondary window
> checked - Run or S/P.
> Ignored S&P messages is unchecked.
> The Win-Test version is 4.6.0
> SO2R set to Advanced.
> Adv. scenarios are Plain Pile-Up and Work mult.
> Key F1.
> Active radio 1 Run - secondary window Run or S/P doesn't change anything -
> same F1 CQ message.
> Active radio 2 Run - the same
> Active radio 1 S/P - F1 - my call-sign no matter what checked in secondary
> window.
> Active radio 2 S/P - F1 - the same.
>
> Anything else?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Yuri VE3XB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net>
> *To:* support at win-test.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WT-support] Secondary Window problem
>
>  2010/10/27 Yuri VE3XB <ve3xb at rogers.com>
>
>>  I'm trying to set up SO2R mode but couldn't make Radio1 and Radio2 act
>> differently - one Run and another S/P.
>> With secondary window enabled clicking Run or S/P doesn't make any
>> difference. The only command that works is CTRL - Tab but it sets the same
>> mode for both radios.
>> Switch between radios ( * ) works OK.
>> I went through the archives but couldn't find anything on this issue.
>> My SO2R interface is MK2R+ and the latest version of WT.
>> What am I missing?
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>
> What does "act differently" mean?  Send the Run messages on the Run radio
> and the S&P messages on the Secondary Radio?  If both are sending the *
> same* CW messages, no matter what mode you choose with Ctrl-Tab, it
> probably means that the "Ignored S&P messages" option is checked in the
> Options tab, under Modify Standard CW Messages.
>
> See here<http://docs.win-test.com/wiki/Menu:Options#Modify_standard_messages...>
> .
>
> If you're talking about phone, there is only one set of messages.  It's not
> the same as CW, where you have on set of messages for RUN mode and another
> for S&P.  So only ESM mode behaves differently when you change from RUN to
> S&P and you're operating on phone.
>
> If that's not it, please describe the problem in more detail, including the
> version of Win-Test that you are running, what SO2R settings you have set,
> which SO2R Advanced Scenario you selected, what keys you are pressing, and
> what you think is not working as expected.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
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