[WT-support] Speed jumps up occasionally

Tue Nov 30 22:50:32 CET 2010

If you take away the "++" and "--" from the CW messages, does the problem
disappear?

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Braco OE1EMS <oe1ems at emssolutions.at>wrote:

>  same problem @ E7DX
> using MKII or MK2R+
> was  same also with older WT versions!
>
> 73s
> Braco
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Yuri VE3XB <ve3xb at rogers.com>
> *To:* support at win-test.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [WT-support] Speed jumps up occasionally
>
> I noticed that CW speed was jumping only after I logged 3-4 QSOs per minute
> for a few minutes in a row.
> I didn't look too deep into WT setup @ VE3EJ station and assumed that
> this was some kind of "smart" feature helping to handle pile-up more
> effectively. It didn't bother me too much because every next transmition was
> back to normal speed.
> Hope it'll help to figure out the cause of this phenomena.
>
> 73 Yuri VE3XB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net>
> *To:* support at win-test.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [WT-support] Speed jumps up occasionally
>
> I assume you use a lot of "+++" and "---" in your scripts?  Which WinKey
> chip version are you using?  (Win-Test reports WK Version detected it at
> start-up at the bottom of the logging window).
>
> The last time I looked at a WinKey communications log, which you can
> produce using the microHAM Router [SET] button next to the Winkey port, I
> saw that Win-Test can sometimes issue [Cancel Buffered Speed Change]
> commands (1E) between every letter sent.
>
> According to a private note from K1EL, copied to Oliver and Laurent last
> January:
>
> "All the buffered speed cancels are troubling, the application should keep
> track of speed changes and only issue commands when they are really
> warranted. While WKUSB is able to handle them it chews up a ton of CPU
> bandwidth to constantly invoke all the math calls that are required."
>
> So there could indeed be a problem with the way Win-Test is sending
> commands to the WinKey.
>
> BTW, using "+++" and "---" will usually make it somewhat harder for CW
> Skimmers to figure out your code speed and your callsign.  I've decided not
> to use them any more and I've had no issues with WinKey speed jumps.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:55 AM, "Jörg Hochheimer, DL6ZBN" <
> dl6zbn at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob and folks,
>>
>> hmm... I didn't touch the CW speed knob on my MK2 at all during the
>> contest. Just used ALT-F9/F10 and the ++ and -- commands in the WT CW
>> messages, but every now and then, the ++ AND(!) the consecutive -- was
>> ignored by WT or WK or MK2 or whatever... it just stayed at the original
>> speed. And then, for the next couple of messages, it was doing as designed,
>> just till it failed again. Speed pot min setting for WK inside the MicroHam
>> Device Router is 15, max is 40, and in WT I used speeds from around 25 to 35
>> wpm. So this was well within the bounds, thus it should have been OK,
>> according to your suggestion, Bob.
>>
>> I have tried the "CW message and paddle speeds" both set to "Independent"
>> or "Synchronized", and the speed settings set to both "Only by the WinKey
>> pot" or "Only by the WT commands...", and it occurs in each of those
>> settings.
>>
>> I know, that is somewhat different to George's problem, but our effects
>> may have a common cause.
>>
>> Using WT 4.7.0-dev Rev. 458 and MicroHAM Device Router 7.7.1.
>>
>> Best 73s de Joerg, DL6ZBN
>>
>>
>> Am 30.11.2010 05:17, schrieb Bob Wilson, N6TV:
>>
>> See this post<http://www.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2008-May/075776.html>for some history about this issue.
>>
>> Bottom line, Win-Test assumes a speed pot range of 20 WPM to 60 WPM.  If
>> you use any other ranges, the speeds can get out of sync.  When you change
>> speed with Win-Test, the POT does *not* move to track the new speed, so
>> its position is immediately out of sync.  Slightly touching it or some other
>> vibration might cause a resync to pot speed, and a speed jump.
>>
>> All WinKey / Win-Test speed jump issues go away if you forget about
>> touching the speed knob and only use Win-Test to change speeds, that is, use
>> "the only by the Win-Test commands" option in Options | Winkey
>> configuration<http://docs.win-test.com/wiki/Menu:Options#WinKey_configuration...>
>>  .
>>
>> 73,
>> Bob, N6TV
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:21 AM, <Georgek5kg at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Here is a question for both the WT and Microham support reflectors:
>>>
>>> I find that occasionally the speed will jump up many wpm when I send a
>>> "TU K5KG" message from the "+" key.  I will be running and running, and
>>> sending TU K5KG with the + key QSO after QSO.  Then, every now and then,
>>> when I send TU K5KG from the + key, the speed will jump up to lightning fast
>>> (maybe 50 wpm).  I'd appreciate any ideas as to why this happens, and what
>>> to do to prevent it.
>>>
>>> Here is my current set up:  Microham CW Keyer, WinTest 4.6,
>>> K3.  Although, this is my current set up, the speed jump up also happened
>>> with WT 3.n and an Icom Pro3.  Bottom line, it has been happening for
>>> several years.  The common elements seem to be WT and the CW Keyer.
>>>
>>> 73, George, K5KG
>>>
>>> George Wagner, K5KG
>>> Sarasota, FL
>>> 941-400-1960 cell
>>>
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