[WT-support] ESM-Mode (correction)

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

First, this can be problem in both ESM and NOESM modes.

Please note that the feature of automatically clearing the callsign when you
move the VFO in S&P mode can be *disabled* in the Radio 1 (Bandmap)
Properties <http://docs.win-test.com/wiki/Menu:Windows#Band_Map_properties>
 window.

Just uncheck "Wipe the QSO".

Of course, when doing normal S&P up and down the band, it is handy to leave
that option checked, to automatically fill in the bandmap and reduce
keystrokes (no need to press Ctrl-Enter).

Yes it would be nice if Win-Test took care not to erase a QSO line if a QSO
was made, but in a contest like CQ WW, with the zone automatically filled in
when a callsign is entered, it is not quite as simple as looking for a
filled-in exchange.

Perhaps Win-Test could set a flag if the F2 (exchange) message is ever sent
on a frequency.  If that flag is set, the callsign would not be
automatically cleared when you move the VFO, even if the "Wipe the QSO"
option is checked.

This new internal flag would have to be reset whenever you logged the QSO,
or manually cleared the QSO with F11 or Alt-W, or pressed Ctrl-Enter to
manually put the station in the band map without logging a contact (or
pressed Alt-Enter to load it into the partner window).

Still, it is not completely trivial to get this right.  What happens if
there is *nothing* in the logging window, and you *accidentally* press F2?
 Should the flag be set?  If so, the next callsign that you enter would *not
* be automatically put into the bandmap when you turned the VFO knob, so the
behavior would appear inconsistent.

And you can't just set the flag when a callsign is filled in, because some
guys just quickly press F4 to call and F2 to send the exchange, and *then* they
type in the callsign.

In sum, it's a lot easier for a human to figure out what happened on a
frequency than Win-Test, because the human heard what happened.  Win-Test
does not have any way to automatically figure out if a QSO was completed.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:46 PM, KL7RA <kl7ra at ptialaska.net> wrote:

> > if the station answers, hit <spacebar> (inserts zone) and then hit
> <enter> again
> > which sends your report as often as necessary.
>
> Should read
> if the station answers, hit <spacebar> (inserts zone) and then hit <enter>
> again
>  which sends your report...
>
> 73 Rich
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra at ptialaska.net>
> To: <support at win-test.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [WT-support] ESM-Mode
>
>
> > >Hello, using ESM-mode : S&P  I lost some qsos, when changing frequency
> >
> > Fred is correct,
> >
> > I lost several mults this weekend and finally took the time to see what
> > I was doing to cause it. My log is a short 80 meter entry so I'm not
> > worried for score but hope I don't cause nils for the double multiplier
> > on 80 meters..
> >
> > How it happens:
> >
> > Under tools (Data entry)
> > check on ESM enabled
> > check on RUN/S&P switching
> >
> > CTL TAB to flip mode to (S&P) Indicated in the logging box title bar
> > (- now using the S&P CW messages and technique.)
> >
> > tune dial for mults
> >
> > enter a callsign in the callsign line and hit <enter>  (sends your call)
> as often as
> > necessary
> >
> > if the station answers, hit <spacebar> (inserts zone) and then hit
> <enter> again
> > which sends your report as often as necessary.
> >
> > if the station gets the report hit <enter> again to log.
> >
> > all is well BUT if you forget to hit the second <enter> the station looks
> like it is
> > logged okay but this entry will disappear when you tune away from that
> freq.
> > If you didn't notice it in time to recover the callsign then you lost
> that QSO and
> > the station you worked gets a NIL.
> >
> > 73 Rich KL7RA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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