[WT-support] microHam micro2R with WT
sm5ajv at qrq.se
sm5ajv at qrq.se
Thu May 13 14:05:12 CEST 2010
I've tested as suggested, still same delay.
I think there is two "evidence" that maybe WinTest is doing
something wrong.
1. You said this is common problem with MK2R/MK2R+ AND WinTest.
2. It looks like it is working OK with N1MM.
3. WinTest is dropping the PTT-line when sending canned messages.
I will post my logging to microHam as well to see what they
have to say.
73
Ingo SM5AJV / SE5E
> Thanks for posting the communications log. It's possible the new micro2R is
> not completely compatible the the MK2R/MK2R+, and changes are required in
> Win-Test, but I would start by asking microHAM support for assistance.
>
> Did you try experimenting with the HANDSHAKE settings on the microHAM
> control port? Try Always OFF, Always ON, or Handshake to see if that makes
> any difference.
>
> If that doesn't work, try the same with the WinKey port. The software seems
> to be waiting for something, hence the delays.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:53 AM, <sm5ajv at qrq.se> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your advices.
>>
>> FIRST
>> N6TV wrote:
>> > 1-2 second delays are a common problem when using Win-Test with the
>> microHAM
>> > control protocol, even with the older MK2R+
>>
>> If this is a known issue, I would really like it to be solved.
>> Having this delay makes SO2R almost useless. I didn't see any bug report of
>> this. So please SW-guys. Look into this!
>>
>> MY FINDINGS
>> I didn't get it working properly and I still have a delay of 1 seconds
>> before the CW goes out. It looks like the CW part is going out when
>> the RX focus is changing. The RX Focus is changing 1 seconds
>> after TX focus is changed. I don't see any reason of this delay.
>> See the dumps below.
>>
>>
>> micro2R:
>> 0014128234: H-TX: FT1 (set TX focus to R1)
>> 0014129312: H-TX: FR1 (set RX focus to R1) <-- 1.078 ms late
>> 0014129312: H-TX: FR2 (set RX focus to R2)
>> 0014131468: H-TX: FR1 (set RX focus to R1)
>>
>>
>>
>> WinKey:
>> 0014129312: H-TX: 53 S <-- CW STARTS at the same time as FR1 is sent,
>> see above
>> 0014129328: H-RX: C4 [status: WAIT=0, KEYDOWN=0, BUSY=1, BREAKIN=0,
>> XOFF=0]
>> 0014129546: H-RX: 53 S
>> 0014129546: H-TX: 45 E <-- Messge is sent from WT character by
>> character
>> 0014129687: H-RX: 45 E
>> 0014129687: H-TX: 35 5
>> 0014130109: H-RX: 35 5
>> 0014130109: H-TX: 45 E
>> 0014130250: H-RX: 45 E
>> 0014130250: H-TX: 20
>> 0014130453: H-RX: 20
>> 0014130453: H-TX: 54 T
>> 0014130468: H-RX: C0 [status: WAIT=0, KEYDOWN=0, BUSY=0, BREAKIN=0,
>> XOFF=0]
>> 0014130484: H-RX: C4 [status: WAIT=0, KEYDOWN=0, BUSY=1, BREAKIN=0,
>> XOFF=0]
>> 0014130625: H-RX: 54 T
>> 0014130640: H-TX: 45 E
>> 0014130765: H-RX: 45 E
>> 0014130765: H-TX: 53 S
>> 0014131046: H-RX: 53 S
>> 0014131046: H-TX: 54 T
>> 0014131250: H-RX: 54 T
>> 0014131250: H-TX: 20
>> 0014131468: H-RX: 20
>> 0014131484: H-TX: (postponed) 1E [Cancel Buffered Speed Change]
>> 0014131484: H-RX: C0 [status: WAIT=0, KEYDOWN=0, BUSY=0, BREAKIN=0,
>> XOFF=0]
>> 0014131500: H-TX: postponed data sent
>>
>>
>>
>> COMPARISION WITH N1MM
>> I have compared this behaviour with N1MM. In N1MM there is no delay
>> before the CW gose out. So I think there is something wrong with WT.
>>
>> PTT HANDLING WITH WINKEY
>> Another difference, which I have pointed out earlier when dealing
>> with a WinKey USB, is that WinTest sends character by character
>> to the WinKey chip. You can see this in the WK dump below.
>> N1MM sends a chunk of characters. This may be related to the problem
>> that the PTT-line drops between words if you don't put in a very long
>> PTT Tail. I think it's better to make the WK:
>>
>> [PTT ON], [send all characters in the message] [PTT OFF]
>>
>> PTT delay should only be applied to the PTT ON in the beginning and
>> PTT TAIL should only be applied to the PTT OFF at the end of the
>> transmission. This is for "canned" messages.
>> Normally you want to have PTT DELAY set to get all relays
>> change over before you start sending. The PTT TAIL DELAY
>> should be rather small for canned messages. Or only used when
>> you use the PADDLE
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Ingo SM5AJV / SE5E
>>
>>
>> > 1-2 second delays are a common problem when using Win-Test with the
>> microHAM
>> > control protocol, even with the older MK2R+.
>> >
>> > Make sure you don't have PTT lead/tail delays set to the default values.
>> > Use the *minimum* numbers (e.g. 0.0 if possible). You have to set this
>> in
>> > both the Router program and in the Win-Test Winkey Configuration screen
>> > (shortcut: WKSETUP [Enter]).
>> >
>> > Sometimes powering everything off and on in just the right sequence will
>> > correct the problem, e.g.:
>> >
>> > 1. Power on computer
>> > 2. Wait for Router program to start (yellow X)
>> > 3. Power on microHAM box
>> > 4. Wait for Router to detect microHAM (Green check mark)
>> > 5. Turn on radios
>> > 6. Wait for microHAM Ports tab to display rig freq.
>> > 7. Start Win-Test
>> > 8. Issue two or three messages to see if thing speed up (first few
>> > messages may be delayed)
>> >
>> > If that doesn't help, verify that you are using the correct COM port
>> > settings in Win-Test Interface Configuration, e.g.:
>> >
>> > - microHAM control port: 38400,N,8,1
>> > - WinKey port: 1200,N,8,2 Handshake/Handshake
>> > - Elecraft port: 4800,N,8,1 Always OFF/Always OFF
>> > - Yaesu port: 4800,N,8,2 Always OFF/Always OFF
>> >
>> > For radios, press the "Use xxx defaults" button on the Win-Test COM port
>> > setup screen. Make sure both Win-Test and the microHAM box are talking
>> to
>> > the rig with the same speed settings.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Bob, N6TV
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:58 AM, <sm5ajv at qrq.se> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am trying to get the new microHam micro2R (SO2R) box to work with WT
>> >> and have run into some problems.
>> >>
>> >> When starting CQ by pushing F1 in WT it takes about 1 second
>> >> before the actual CW output is started. Has anyone any hint
>> >> on how to configure this new device with WT. I am using
>> >> the MK2R setup for the Control Port.
>> >>
>> >> Pushing the test command for F1 on the router starts CW immediately.
>> >>
>> >> Any advices are most welcome!
>> >>
>> >> 73
>> >> Ingo SM5AJV / SE5E
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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