[WT-support] Problem with zone guessing in 3.16

Tõnno Vähk Tonno.Vahk at gildbankers.com
Thu Nov 1 11:50:06 CET 2007


Hi Tom Quijote de la Mancha:)) I sympathize with your fight against windmills and of course it is important to make sure computers won't be competing for us in this game. But every contest has its rules and when the exchange is easily guessable it would be stupid not to have the computer refill the field, the same was as it would be stupid not to use voice keyer for serious SO operation. One could claim it is not fair and ethical as well:)

Trust me that staying up 48 hours straight fully concentrated and making 6k QSOs is not drinking beer in the pub even if you manage to save a few keystrokes with automatic exchange guessing. It makes you ask if the headache, hallucianations and loss of voice is really worth it. Try it once and you will see how important ergonimics and efficiency of operating gets. 

Of course one has to make sure the exhanges are right. What happened here was a unexpected program flaw and due to having no time to reconfigure the program/change version the mistakes were inevitable as whenever you started coping/entering the callsign not from the very first letter it entered and fixed wrong exchange. It means you got the info right and naturally it is impossible for someone not completely ignorant about those things think that GM is in zone 27 but that is what the program logged if I got 4FDM first and then added GM to it later.

I don't think correcting known program mistakes afterwards is massaging. The same way we enter notes to program during contest for mistakes we notice immidiately for later correction.

73
es5tv

-----Original Message-----
From: support-bounces at win-test.com [mailto:support-bounces at win-test.com] On Behalf Of Tom Wylie
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:17 PM
To: support at win-test.com
Subject: Re: [WT-support] Problem with zone guessing in 3.16

Isn't massaging the logs after the contest against the 
spirit of the Contest?   Why can't we go back to the good 
old day where you had to manually insert the exchange and 
not "guess" it.    Isnt accuracy the real teast instead of 
the guy who talks fastest, but gets the information wrong?

I mean,  we have automated our stations
we are automating our logging programmes,  why not just 
automate the operator and be done with it, then we can all 
go out for a meal and a beer and come home and see who whose 
computer won?


Tom
GM4FDM



Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
> On 10/31/07, *Tõnno Vähk* <Tonno.Vahk at gildbankers.com 
> <mailto:Tonno.Vahk at gildbankers.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I was also asking if anyone knows a good way to update the zones in
>     log according to the MOD.DTA without having manually change them all.
> 
> One way to do it would be with a separate QSLing / DXing program like 
> DX4WIN or DXBase.  I don't know much about these, but I believe they can 
> import ADIF files, and calculate the CQ zone, and then output ADIF files 
> with the zone.  Then you need a program like LogCONV by KA5WSS that will 
> convert ADIF to Cabrillo.  Then you can import the Cabrillo file back 
> into Win-Test to get your score.
> 
> I doubt you will think this is a "good" way, but it is one way to do it.
> 
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
> 
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