<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">"Don't poll" means "Don't send any commands to the radio to get frequency data," which can only work (normally) if you set set CI-V Transceive ON in the radio. But OmniRig ALWAYS POLLS the radio for frequency data, and expects to read a reply. It must always set CI-V Transceive OFF, because OmniRig does not work well with CI-V Transceive ON (it gets too many unexpected messages from the radio). OmniRig does not and cannot turn CI-V Transceive back ON when it terminates.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Win-Test's built-in IC-7100 support can work in a "one way" direction (from Win-Test to Radio only), if you select "Don't Poll" and CI-V Transceive is OFF in the radio. If you turn the knob, Win-Test will not track. But if you enter a frequency, it will work OK.<div><br></div><div>As you can see from the Frequency Offsets dialog in Win-Test, one can program a fixed offset for every band supported <b>by the radio</b>. If you're using the <i>same</i> radio band for two different transverter bands, Win-Test has no way of knowing which offset you want to use <i>unless</i> you change bands only from Win-Test. As soon as Win-Test sees the radio on 2m (via a poll or CI-V Transceive message), it's going to start using the 146 MHz offset no matter what you've programmed for the 10 and 24 GHz offsets.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, if polling is OFF and CI-V Transceive is OFF, communication will be only one way, from Win-Test to the Radio. In this case, Win-Test will subtract the proper offset from whatever frequency value you type in the logging window and send it to the radio, so it "works." But, when you do this through OmniRig, it's immediately going to start polling the radio again, so it's going to switch back to using the offset programmed for 2m, because that's where it finds the radio.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, you may want to reprogram the .INI files in OmniRig to add or subtract a fixed offset value from the frequency returned by (or sent to) the radio. See<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://dxatlas.com/omnirig/IniStru.txt">http://dxatlas.com/omnirig/IniStru.txt</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>See sections 5.4 and 5.5. However, that's a fixed value, so you would have to use two different OmniRig files, one fro 10 GHz and a different one for 24 GHz, and you would have to select each one whenever you changes bands (right click on Win-Test Band Map, then click on OmniRig Settings, then pick a different INI file and click OK). But you may find that to be too impractical, however, I see no other alternative.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">73,<div>Bob, N6TV</div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:17 AM Alexander Kurpiers <<a href="mailto:a.kurpiers@gmail.com">a.kurpiers@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bob,</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">I'm unfortunately not in front of the
setup... but the software is about 2 years old (Omnirig). Need to
check, if it is related to the VFO B.</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">I will try native IC7100 instead of
OmniRig - but I'm fairly sure that it works (as a similar setup
works with IC7400). And I need Omnirig in the end (as I need to
control the radio from Win-Test and HPSDR at the same time)<br>
</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">I agree that having 2 bands mapped to
the same IF is problematic. But as I wrote this works for the
setup with IC7400 (native support, not through Omnirig). That
setup runs with "Don't Poll", I guess the problem is there.</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">And I don't agree that Win-Test can't
decide on the right frequency - if in doubt and the current
frequency "fits", why switch bands?</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">Just to confirm: there is only one
IC7100 connected and I switch between 10 and 24 GHz by switching
the transverters on the transceiver input. Then I switch bands
(manually) with the blue arrows in the UI. I see the band change
in the UI, but it changes back immediately. It stays on the right
band only if I set the "Don't poll" option.</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">(It is not a huge deal - if I'm very
lucky, I'll do 10 QSOs on 24GHz... in 24h)<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">73' Alexander<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493moz-cite-prefix">On 3/25/19 7:18 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I am currently updating the .INI files used by
OmniRig for most modern Icom radios, including the IC-7100.
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<div>Are you selecting IC-7100e4.ini? There may be a problem in
that it is returning both VFO A and VFO B and "Operating
Freq", and it's not clear which one Win-Test will use. If you
press A=B does it make any difference?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do you see the same problem if you set Radio type to
IC-7100 instead of to OmniRig?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What values are you entering in the Frequency Offsets
dialog? If you are using the the 2m band on the radio for
both 10 and 24 GHz, and switching back and forth between 10
and 24 GHz, then I don't see any way for Win-Test to display
the proper frequency. Win-Test is designed to mapping one
band on one band (2m in your case) to one other band, not one
band to two other bands. Or are you you using TWO IC-7100s?
Are you using SO2R mode in Win-Test?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1158770255813497493gmail_signature">73,
<div>Bob, N6TV</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 7:18
AM Alexander Kurpiers <<a href="mailto:a.kurpiers@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.kurpiers@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I have a strange problem... my transceiver is connected to
Win-Test<br>
using Omnirig (it is a IC7100 - but should not matter).<br>
<br>
If I change bands in Win-Test, the new band is displayed for a
very<br>
short time, then Win-Test switches back to the previous
(lower) band.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm sure the problem is due to using the same transceiver
frequency for<br>
both bands - in my case 146 MHz for 10 and 24 GHz. The
frequency offset<br>
is set, so both bands for Win-Test both yield the same
frequency<br>
received from Omnirig.<br>
<br>
I know it is a corner case, but I want to report nevertheless,
maybe<br>
there is a solution.<br>
<br>
Obviously it is some kind of race between Omnirig polling and
the code<br>
that switches bands and tries to figure out the band based on
the<br>
frequency reported by the transceiver.<br>
<br>
To add to the confusion: on another band (13/6cm) I have a
very similar<br>
setup, but there I use CIV directly (to a IC7400). And there
it works...<br>
<br>
Currently, the only way to switch to 24 GHz is to turn off
polling in<br>
the Win-Test setup. Then the frequency of course is not
displayed<br>
anymore in the radio window. Not a huge deal.<br>
<br>
<br>
73' Alexander DL8AAU<br>
<br>
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