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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Here’s my answers, Bob:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The delay was random – sometimes it was zero but (when it mattered !) it would be up to about a second. PTT lead set to 30ms. It was an embedded WinKey in both the Microham and the EZMaster. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However, I do think I am beginning to get a sniff of the solution. The machines were each running cluster links via WTDX Telnet. The load of spots was considerable at the weekend, and so I tried today to simulate that with an extensive “SH/DX” commend. Up till I sent that command, the keying had been perfect. When the spots arrived the delay was there for a while. I am beginning to think this is the Telnet app + the processing of the spots in WT which together loads things so that the CW gets a back seat. Might that be possible? The fact that I get the same effect on EZMaster and Microham suggests it is not the basic installation of the hardware/firmware/interface, but a processing issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’ll send you the relevant screen grabs directly (I’ll just to the Microham) as I don’t think the reflector handles attachments. If you have any ideas, they would be very appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Don, G3BJ / G5W <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> support-bounces@f5mzn.org [mailto:support-bounces@f5mzn.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Wilson, N6TV<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 December 2014 17:02<br><b>To:</b> Win-Test Reflector<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] KEYING DELAY<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Was it a consistent delay, or variable? How long was the delay? What was the PTT Lead time set to in the WinKey (WKSETUP) dialog? Were you using WinKey PTT or any other type of PTT port? Was the "PA PTT" box checked and was "PA PTT lead" set to some value other than 0 in the PTT tab? You really need to send me a screen shot of every Win-Test dialog and every Router tab on the problem computer before I can do much more.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There at at least 3 different places where PTT lead time can be set in Win-Test and the Router. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If it works for a while, then the delay shows up, sometimes I've had to type SETUP [Enter] [Enter] in Win-Test to reopen all COM ports, including the WinKey. Did you try that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Any leading blanks in CW messages programmed by mistake?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>73,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob, N6TV<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Pablo - EA4TX <<a href="mailto:ea4tx@ea4tx.com" target="_blank">ea4tx@ea4tx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In ED1R we also noticed the same problem but only in one of our computers.<br>Our entry was M/2 and we used 5 computers (2 x RUN + 2 x INBAND + MULTI).<br>All the computers are similar (same Dell desktop computer) and we used<br>microHAM microKeyer II. The problem was detected ONLY in the "MULTI"<br>Station, the rest of computers (4) worked without delay in the CW starting.<br><br>We checked all possible options (MicroHam Router and WT) but it didn't help<br>to fix it. We also entered the same setup of another computer (without<br>delay) into this Multi station and it didn't work.<br><br>After a lot of time spent in this issue, we couldn't solve. After a lot of<br>years running WT and microham, I think I do not consider myself a newbie is<br>these settings.<br><br>We thought that the problem was due to this computer (some strange case),<br>but now after reading your email, you describe the same problem we found in<br>this station.<br><br>Regards, Pablo EA4TX (ED1R Team)<br><br><br>De/From_____________________________________________________________________<br> J. Pablo GARCIA<br> Interlanco Comunicaciones SL Tel: ++34 91 375 10 43<br> Fax: ++34 91 327 05 50<br> Albasanz, 48 - 4D<br> 28037 - MADRID email: <a href="mailto:jpgarcia@interlanco.com">jpgarcia@interlanco.com</a><br> SPAIN <a href="http://www.ea4tx.com" target="_blank">http://www.ea4tx.com</a><br><<a href="http://www.ea4tx.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ea4tx.com/</a>><br>____________________________________________________________________________<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>De: <a href="mailto:support-bounces@f5mzn.org">support-bounces@f5mzn.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:support-bounces@f5mzn.org">support-bounces@f5mzn.org</a>] En nombre<br>de Don Beattie<br>Enviado el: martes, 02 de diciembre de 2014 11:52<br>Para: <a href="mailto:support@win-test.com">support@win-test.com</a><br>Asunto: [WT-support] KEYING DELAY<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br>In CQWW CW this weekend at G5W we were using new computers, which did not<br>have LPT ports (:-(<br><br><br><br>So we had to use USB control of Microham and EZMaster on the two stations.<br>We experienced random delay in the CW starting when pressing a function key.<br>As far as I can see, everything is properly installed. Is this a known<br>problem with USB control of Microham and EZM (yes I know that is an old<br>product) and if so, what is the fix. This never happened with LPT keying.<br><br><br><br>I did wonder whether it was the load of running TelNet with high spot volume<br>that was causing the problem, but the computers are fast, with lots of<br>memory.<br><br><br><br>Any ideas ?<br><br><br><br>Don, G3BJ<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:support@win-test.com">support@win-test.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.f5mzn.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support" target="_blank">http://lists.f5mzn.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>