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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Bob, of course I take the Wiki literally, if it says that Alt-Y changes the current QSO I believe it. But what you really are saying is that the Wiki is wrong, Alt-Y toggles the setting for this QSO and onwards. Fine but then the Wiki should be changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, I understand that there might be a reason to swap RUN1/RUN2 if you go mad on QSYs but I have had this happen unintentionally last weekend and also seen it happen on earlier occasions w/o understanding why so I think I’d like to disable those keystrokes from now on in my configurations and then rather rely on typing RUN1/RUN2 as and if required.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree with you, make “Sticky” the default but I also think the Alt-Y and Ctrl-F3 should be abandoned – we are talking QSYs over a 60-minute period so the need to change should not be that frequent and typing RUN1/RUN2 should not be too onerous.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Anyhow, not a big deal now that I understand what is going on (and the Wiki will hopefully be corrected?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>73 and you are a star Bob, best support in the ham radio sphere<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Olof G0CKV M5E<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> support-bounces@f5mzn.org [mailto:support-bounces@f5mzn.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Wilson, N6TV<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 March 2014 23:21<br><b>To:</b> Win-Test Reflector<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] WT Station Type changing inadvertently<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Olof Lundberg <<a href="mailto:olof@rowanhouse.com" target="_blank">olof@rowanhouse.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>During RDXC I had RUN2 on three occasions switch to calling itself RUN1. I caught it early so it was easy to switch back and correct. The station setup was all in a stable configuration with no RFI and such; no reboots or restarts during the contest and ‘sticky setting’ was ticked. I wonder if this might have happened by RUN2 accidentally hitting Alt-Y or Ctrl-F3? But the Wiki says that these keyboard commands should only change the current QSO – it doesn’t say that the setting would be toggled. Is the manual wrong or is there something else going on?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think you may be taking the wording in the Wiki a little too literally, but I can try to make it more clear since you found it confusing. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A simple test reveals that pressing Alt-Y or Ctrl-F3 on the last line of the logging window changes the station type exactly the same as typing RUN1 or RUN2 [Enter], or using the menu equivalent: Commands -> Station Type -> Run 1 or Run 2. So yes, the new station type applies to the current logging line, even if it is the last line in the logging window (the empty one). If done with the cursor on the last line, any new QSOs you log on that computer after that will use the same (new) station type.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't see any reason to change it. It's faster than using the menu or typing the text commands, if you change station type often.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> One thought would be to reassign those keys to something innocent<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>DEFINEKEYS can certainly be used to map Alt-Y and Ctrl-F3 to "!" (exclamation point or similar, a key that is ignored), so that the function is effectively disabled and nothing happens when you hit them accidentally.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I can’t see any reason to change station type in-flight?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Station type is often changed if one station is nearing the band change limit, and the other has band changes to spare. The very useful "Sticky" setting in the same menu is relatively new, so it is still common that people need a way to quickly fix a bunch of QSOs that were accidentally logged with the wrong station type. This often happens after a restart.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For those who are unaware, "Sticky" means the station type will stay the same (RUN1 or RUN2 for M/2, RUN or MULT for M/S), even if you restart or reboot. Without that sticky setting checked, Win-Test always changes the station type back to RUN1 or RUN when it restarts, which often causes much headache.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I really think "Sticky" should be the Win-Test default whenever you create a new multi-2 or multi-single log, but I don't think it is. So you still need Alt-Y and Ctrl-F3 to fix things quickly.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>73,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob, N6TV<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>