<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Bob Shohet, KQ2M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kq2m@kq2m.com" target="_blank">kq2m@kq2m.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_quote">In sum, you control the DX Doubler via the LPT (on one
computer). See<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">Now I’m confused. Since I am
using two computers for my SO2R setup</font></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">and I want the lockout control and
mic/keyer switching that the DX doubler provides, </font></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">my understanding, perhaps incorrect,
is that I need to connect the DX doubler to</font></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">LPT port on BOTH radios.</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, the DX Doubler has a single parallel port input; that is the one and only connection to a computer. See diagram on Page 4 of the <a href="http://www.qth.com/topten/dxdman.pdf">DX Doubler Manual</a> (underlined text is a hyperlink, click to open manual). Win-Test SO2R support, like the DX Doubler, is designed for a single computer, not two networked computers. There is no software lockout in Win-Test between two networked computers. The DX Doubler doesn't provide a lockout system when you are using two computers. If you are using two computers, there is nothing in this system to prevent you from hitting F1 on both computers at the same time. As far as I know, only N1MM software provides a software lockout system using two networked computers for SO2R.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But if you use a single computer with two serial ports, and a parallel port (printer port) connected to a DX Doubler for all TX / RX switching, then Win-Test will ensure that you only transmit on one at a time, because it can only key one radio at a time.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Some people do use two networked computers with Win-Test, but they have to build some type of hardware lockout circuit that provides "First One Wins" or "Last one Wins" logic. I don't have any references for that, but maybe someone else does.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3"></font> <span style="color:rgb(155,0,211)">I have been warned by people to make
sure that the FT1000MP band data goes directly to the</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">Band Decoders and and have that feed
through to all the devices including the computer, rather than have
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<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">the band data go from the radio to
the computer to control the switching.</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, just take the Yaesu cable supplied with the Top Ten band decoder and connect it to the Band Data jack on the back of the FT-1000MP. The other end connects to the Top Ten band decoder input labeled J1. When you change bands on the radio, the band decoder will track it (rotary switch must be in the AUTO position). No computer or software required. No connection to DX Doubler required. The DX Doubler supports band data on LPT only for those who have very old radios without any serial ports.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3"></font> <span style="color:rgb(155,0,211)">You are suggesting that I use connect
the computer directly to the radio (like with CT) rather</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">than directly to the Band
Decoders?</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes you connect the RS-232 (or "serial") cable between the computer and the radio. This has a DE-9 (9-pin female) on each end. But you also connect the Top Ten cable between the radio and the Top Ten Band Decoder. This has a DIN plug on the radio side and a 25-pin connector for J1 input on the Top Ten band decoder. This way you can change bands on the radio even when the computer is off, and everything will switch automatically.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(155,0,211)">As I said in an earlier email, I want
to be able to electronically switch everything; I just thought</span><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">that it would make sense to start
with Win-test and the DX doubler to make sure that the most basic </font></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#9b00d3">setup works.</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The most basic setup uses a single computer with two serial ports and one parallel port, and a DX Doubler, not two computers with two keyboards. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Win-Test supports computer keying via the LPT port, same as CT. But
paddle input on the LPT port is not supported.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div><font color="#9b00d3">I assume that if I want paddle support (that is not
controlled </font><span style="color:rgb(155,0,211)">by the DX doubler/Wintest), then I can still use a
Y-adpater at the key jack with one of the inputs being the paddle and the
other </span><span style="color:rgb(155,0,211)">being the DX doubler. Correct?</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. First, the paddle input on the back of the DX Doubler just provides a convenient connection to the LPT pins used by CT for paddle input. Since Win-Test has no support for this, the paddle input to the DX Doubler cannot be used with Win-Test.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The simplest solution is to use a single external keyer like a LogiKey. Plug your paddles into the keyer. Plug the output of the keyer into the "Key In" jack on the back of the DX Doubler. Now manual keyer keying (paddles) and Win-Test CW keying (which comes in via the LPT line) will be wired in parallel to the selected radio's CW input. However, if you try to send CW on the paddle keyer at the same time that Win-Test is sending, you will probably get mixed CW output (gibberish). The only way to have Win-Test keying interrupted by paddles is to use a WinKey (which requires yet another serial port or USB port) instead of keying via LPT pins.</div>
<div><br></div><div>By the way, you don't need the W1WEF keying circuit any more, as the equivalent keying circuit is built-in to the DX Doubler.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Most radios, including the FT-1000MP do not have an IP
addresses. They are assigned to a serial port like COM1, COM2,
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<div><span style="font-size:12pt">Since </span><span style="font-size:12pt">I have all devices connected to a 24 port switch
connected to a LinkSys router, do I still need to manually set
this?</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>There should be no Ethernet cables connected between your FT-1000MP and
your LinkSys router or Ethernet switch, just a simple straight serial cable with
DB-9 female connectors on both ends connected between your Windows XP machine
and your FT-1000MP. If you already have it working with CT, you don't need
to change any wiring to make it work with Win-Test.</div>
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<div style="font-size:small;font-family:calibri;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline"><font color="#9b00d3">That’s entirely different from what I understood. But then I
still need a USB connection between the each computer and</font></div></div>
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</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, you need an Ethernet connection, not USB. If both Windows computers can already view web pages on the Internet, then all the network wiring you need is already in place.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please refer to this image to see the difference between USB-A ports an Ethernet RJ-45 ports (top row). I assume your "24 port switch" has only RJ-45 ports. Otherwise, I don't understand what it is.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://miotd.com/images/20130722.jpg">http://miotd.com/images/20130722.jpg</a> </div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div>Bob, N6TV</div></div></div></div>