[WT-support] Win-Test and contest numbers, proposal

Rick Dougherty NQ4I nq4i at contesting.com
Tue May 29 14:29:46 CEST 2012


Hi Tono and others...this is the best sounding solution I have heard yet...

de Rick NQ4I

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Wolfgang -DK9VZ- <ws at dk9vz.com> wrote:

> Hey Tönno
>
> yes you're right, I didn´t consider that there is another mode called SSB,
> which I normally don´t use and don´t like ;-))
>
> So your proposal to increment SN only the callsign fileld is empty
> would be a very good solution in my view also.
>
> It could lead to having sent the same number twice, but when both QSOs
> are logged with that same number and could be cross checked it wouldn´t be
> a problem.
> A gap (a number without an assigned QSO) would not appear.
>
> When can we have it? ;-))
>
> /*73 de*/
> /*Wolfgang DK9VZ*/
> ws at dk9vz.com <mailto:ws at dk9vz.com>
>
>
> Am 29.05.2012 13:25, schrieb Tõnno Vähk:
>
>>
>> I see a very interesting and needed discussion here. We just completed
>> another MS operation in WPX which now has one numbering sequence only and
>> running with 5 stations you need all them to coordinate numbers. It is a
>> mess as often the number is stolen from the RUN station or another station
>> after it has given it out but before he has pressed Enter and then the
>> wrong sent number gets into the log. We do use $NEXTSERIAL, etc... But a
>> lot of human mistakes happen. And unfortunately it is the innocent caller
>> who gets punished as he will lose the QSO because “wrongly copied“ exchange.
>>
>> I have seen the opinion of WT guys and solutions proposed and arguments
>> presented to protect the current system. Well, obviously a critical mass of
>> people have huge problems with this thing and we would need at least some
>> optional solution. It is clear that none of the contest organizers require
>> perfect line of numbers and what is important is that the numbers match in
>> logs. So preserving a clean sequence is not an argument.
>>
>> Reserving the number somehow when it is sent does not quite work as in
>> SSB it won’t work and even in CW some guys send with paddle, etc.. Bob’s
>> idea abut the program checking what was sent and logging it is interesting
>> but again not universal.
>>
>> It seems to me that the best option is to have a following tickable
>> option in WT:
>>
>> ONLY INCREMENT SERIAL NUMBER WHEN CALLSIGN FIELD IS EMPTY
>>
>> That’s it. Let the station who has something on the callsign field keep
>> the number. This way it can never happen that you log a different number
>> from what is sent! If the QSO does not happen and you clear the callsign
>> field the number gets immidiately synchronized again! Can someone point out
>> when this solution would not work?
>>
>> If only it would not require rewriting the whole code of the program!
>> Does it??
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Es5tv
>>
>>
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