[WT-support] Win-Test and contest numbers

Nick F5VIH/SV3SJ f5vih at sinanis.com
Tue May 29 07:43:26 CEST 2012


Just my two cents guys:

Instead of freezing GUI's, reserving numbers that never get used (and
confuse the subsequent station that hears there is a jump in serial
number), or perhaps the hardware interlock cutting of the keyboard of the
other station (!!) why not then,

ask CQWW to restore numbering per station, and not numbering per band as it
occurred after the last rule change? CQWW is using sophisticated statistic
tools to find cheaters, that can easily handle multiple serial number
sequences per band.

73, Nick

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Mark Bailey <kd4d at comcast.net> wrote:

>  On 5/28/2012 10:19 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Mark Bailey <kd4d at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Your proposed solution interferes with the rhythm of the run operator.
>> And, I still think that tired operators won't do this well at 5:00AM!
>
>
>  I agree, at high speed, constantly watching and editing the sent serial
> number *would* get cumbersome.
>
>  Maybe all that is needed is for Win-Test to save whatever value wast
> last-used for the $SERIAL CW variable on each computer, and it could just
> log that last-sent serial no., unique or not, instead of always saving the
> constantly changing "current serial no." .
>
>  But, how do we make this work just as well on phone as on CW?  How do
> you coordinate sent serial numbers when operating multi-multi with RUN/MULT
> on the same band, on phone?
>
>  I wonder how multi-multi's did this in the old days of paper logging.
>  Maybe that was well before the "octopus" became essential to the process
> of competing and winning as a multi-multi in WPX.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
>
>  Hi Bob:
>
> We're doing this at high rates for long periods of time.
>
> I don't have a long historical perspective, but the M/M competition is at
> a higher level than it was 12 years ago!  :-)   With the RBN on CW, our
> hourly rates are much higher than they used to be on CW - due to
> interleaving QSOs.  We have to do this to stay competitive.
>
> Just making sure the GUI didn't change as soon as the first character of a
> call is entered, and logging what is displayed, could fix part of the
> problem both in CW and SSB.  This would introduce other quirks like sending
> duplicate serial numbers, but it avoids sending something different than
> what is logged.
>
> Displaying a changing number is a particular problem in SSB - depending on
> what instant the operator reads the number verses when
>
> Phone needs to be the same as CW and just the normal sequence of running,
> without extra steps and without requiring coordination between the run and
> S&P operators.
>
> There is no perfect solution but I dislike "cumbersome".  :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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