[WT-support] ESM functionality

[Tom W8JI]

Bob's suggestion makes sense to me.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob at 5b4agn.net>
To: <support at win-test.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:04 AM
Subject: [WT-support] ESM functionality


Hi Philippe

No offence taken but I'd like to make a correction to your 
understanding.  I
make suggestions NOT demands.

I'm puzzled by your comment.  " IMHO, I want to know, every 
time I press the
'enter' key, what will be output."  This is exactly my point 
No. 2.  It is
not possible to know from looking at the screen what will be 
output as it is
dependent upon number of 'enter' key presses not the cursor 
position.

The change I have requested would ensure the operator can 
always know what
will happen next by checking the cursor position on the 
screen.  This would
be true in both RUN and S&P modes.

I disagree that ESM cannot be useful in S&P.  I also 
disagree that it is
desirable to have to abandon it when repeats are requested.

With the scheme I have described 99%+ Qs can be handled with 
use of only the
'enter' key and Space Bar.  With the current arrangement the 
% of Qs which
can be handled this way is significantly lower.

I firmly believe my suggestion would make for a superior ESM
implementation.  I also accept if I am the only one that 
thinks so it would
make no sense to implement the change.

FWIW

Bob, 5B4AGN

2009/7/14 F6IFY Philippe <f6ify at free.fr>

Hi Bob and all the list,
>
>    No offense Bob, but I hope Olivier and Larry will not 
> follow your
> demand.
> IMHO, I want to know, every time I press the "enter" Key, 
> what will be the
> output.
> So when I have a doubt I wish to be able to use the Fx 
> keys to be sure not
> sending the wrong message.
>
> So, I hope Larry will keep the ESM as simple and stupid as 
> it is for the
> moment.
> IMHO, ESM is useful only in Run mode when all is "nominal" 
> (regular?).
>
> I have used ESM intensively on others softwares, and I 
> think the Larry's
> design is by far the best.
>
> 73
>  Philippe - F6IFY
>
> ----- "Bob Henderson" <bob at 5b4agn.net> a écrit :
>
> > Dear Olivier and Laurent
> >
> >
> > I realise you have only just implemented ESM in V4 but I 
> > wonder if you
> > might be prepared to consider a change to its 
> > functionality to
> > accommodate cursor addressing?
> >
> > The current functionality has two clear disadvantages 
> > IMHO:
> >
> > 1. When a QSO does not follow the usual format it is 
> > necessary to
> > revert to F keys to avoid inappropriate responses. (E.g 
> > a request for
> > repeat of exchange.)
> >
> > 2. The operator cannot tell from looking at the screen 
> > what will
> > happen when he next presses return.
> >
> > If ESM was re-coded such that message sent and logging 
> > action taken
> > were dependent upon which field the cursor is in, 
> > together with the
> > content of that field, these disadvantages would be 
> > overcome.
> >
> > I believe the following behaviour would provide a useful 
> > improvement.
> >
> > RUN
> >
> > Cursor in empty Call field - return = F4
> > Cursor & Call in Call field - return = Insert
> > Cursor in Exchange field - return = +
> >
> > S&P
> >
> > Cursor in empty Call field - return = F4
> > Cursor & Call in Call field - return = F4
> > Cursor in Exchange field - return = Insert
> >
> > A useful addition to the message variables might be 
> > something like $>.
> > This variable added to the end of the RUN Insert message 
> > would
> > automatically advance the cursor to the Exchange field. 
> > The Space Bar
> > toggles between Call & Exchange fields, so it would only 
> > be necessary
> > to press the Space Bar before Return on those occasions 
> > where a repeat
> > was requested.
> >
> > Thank you for your consideration.
> >
> > Bob, 5B4AGN, P3F
> >
> >
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