[WT-support] FT1000D working
Mikael Larsmark
mike at sm3wmv.com
Tue Oct 7 20:50:06 CEST 2008
Yes, but once again. The FIF232C interface uses external power supply,
right? And in that case there is no need for RTS/DTR to be set high
since it doesn't need those pins to supply the voltage for the level
converting. However on "passive" converters this is needed since the
pullups are needed, hence the DTR/RTS pins set high. It has got nothing
to do with handshaking, I would say that it's just pure luck that it
works with that enabled.
Has anybody actually tried to set RTS/DTR as HIGH in Win-test to confirm
this? Atleast this was the problem for me when I used the FT1000D with a
passive CAT interface.
So to N6TV, no you should not set them to handshake, you should set them
to HIGH.
Mike, SM2WMV
Rick Dougherty NQ4I wrote:
> Hi Bob..I am using 8 1000D's with the FIF232C and no DTR or RTS is
> necessary with mine de Rick NQ4I
>
> 2008/10/7 Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net <mailto:n6tv at arrl.net>>
>
> So are all the FT-1000D users on this list in agreement that if
> you're using an FT-1000D with Win-Test you /must/ set both RTS and
> DTR to Handshake? Or is this only true when using 3rd party devices
> like the K1NU CAT control cable
> <http://k1nu.home.comcast.net/~k1nu/k1nu/Products/control.html>, and
> /not /required when using the original Yaesu FIF-232C
> <http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/0322.html> and
> CT-62 interface cable? I'd like to get this properly documented in
> the Wiki in the Supported rigs section
> <http://docs.win-test.com/wiki/Supported_rigs>.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Robert Pack, NX5M <nx5m at txcyber.com
> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>> wrote:
>
> I will test this also to see if it works. Just wish I had found
> this info
> sooner. I found a post from over 2 years ago describing the
> same issues and
> the answer given is as follows:
> <>
> I used a FT1000D , my parameters are : 4800 N 2 , you select a
> port com and
> you click on the right button ( parameters port ) , you select 4800
> bits/seconds and bits donnees 8 and no parity and 2 bits stop
> after you
> select DTR and RTS you put handshake. The FT1000D does have the
> EEPROM V6
> F4DXW ( TM0HQ 20meters SSB )
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mikael Larsmark" <mike at sm3wmv.com <mailto:mike at sm3wmv.com>>
> To: <support at win-test.com <mailto:support at win-test.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [WT-support] FT1000D working
>
>
> > Does it work if you set RTS to be always high? In that case
> it's sourced
> > through those pins as the FT1000D interfaces I have seen.
> >
> > And when I read the K1NU page it says "- The RTS (power) pin.
> My cable
> > (and many others) gets power from this serial port pin. While
> most
> > programs hold this pin high for this reason, keep in mind
> there is no
> > 'industry standard' for this, but the chances are good.
> Check your
> > user's manual. In newer programs (2001+) you may have to
> select an
> > option to turn this on."
> >
> > Mike, SM2WMV
> >
> > Robert Pack, NX5M wrote:
> >> The board I am referring to is a small pc board on the DB9
> connector.
> >> This is an interface made by K1NU.
> >> http://k1nu.home.comcast.net/~k1nu/k1nu/Products/control.html
> >> The "guts" are on a small pc board inside the case of the
> DB9 connector.
> >> It is one single cable with DB9 on one end and DIN6 on the
> other and I
> >> guess you could call it a converter since it replaces Yaesu
> parts
> >> FIF232C and CT-62.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> *From:* Bob Wilson, N6TV <mailto:n6tv at arrl.net
> <mailto:n6tv at arrl.net>>
> >> *To:* Robert Pack, NX5M <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com
> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>>
> >> *Cc:* Win-Test Reflector <mailto:support at win-test.com
> <mailto:support at win-test.com>>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2008 9:28 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WT-support] FT1000D working
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Robert Pack, NX5M
> <nx5m at txcyber.com <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>
> >> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not sure if they are connected or not in all
> honesty Bob.
> >> The board that has the transistors and resistors
> right behind
> >> the DB9 connector is quite small and hard to trace
> and since
> >> this is working now I am not even going to bother to
> try to
> >> figure it out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> What board? Inside your PC? What transistors and
> resistors? Are
> >> you using some type of level converter? Isn't it
> possible to go
> >> straight from the RS-232 connector on your PC to the CAT
> connector
> >> of your FT-1000D, or are you using some type of
> "converter box" in
> >> between?
> >>
> >> What kind of cable are you using to connect your PC to your
> >> FT-1000D? Is there any continuity between pins 4 or 7
> on the DB9
> >> connector and /any /PIN on the CAT connector, or the
> shell? There
> >> should be no connection. Pins 4 and 7 should not be
> grounded, and
> >> they should not be shorted to each other either.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Bob, N6TV
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> *From:* Bob Wilson, N6TV <mailto:n6tv at arrl.net
> <mailto:n6tv at arrl.net>>
> >> *To:* nx5m at txcyber.com <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>
> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>> ; Win-Test
> >> Reflector <mailto:support at win-test.com
> <mailto:support at win-test.com>>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2008 4:20 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WT-support] FT1000D working
> >>
> >> 2008/10/6 Robert Pack, NX5M <nx5m at txcyber.com
> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>
> >> <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com <mailto:nx5m at txcyber.com>>>
> >>
> >> Finally figured out the problem why the FT1000D
> would not
> >> track.
> >> RTS and DTR in the config have to be set to
> HANDSHAKE.
> >> Default settings would not work.
> >> This is probably the case on the two 990's that
> I have as
> >> well and I will check into that first chance I get.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well done Bob, but I don't really understand why
> this would make
> >> a difference. The DTR (DE-9 pin 4) and RTS (DE-9
> pin 7) lines
> >> are not connected to the 6 PIN CAT connector, are
> they? Are
> >> they shorted together?
> >>
> >> From the FT-1000(D) Operating Manual:
> >>
> >> _CAT Connector_
> >> Pin 1: GND
> >> Pin 2: SERIAL OUT
> >> Pin 3: SERIAL IN
> >> Pin 4: PTT
> >> Pin 5: S/PO (does anyone know what this means?)
> >> Pin 6: NC
> >>
> >> What version of EPROM is in these radios?
> >>
> >> From the FT-1000(D) Operating Manual Errata & Addendum:
> >>
> >> "To improve the versatility of external computer
> control of the
> >> FT-1000, a facility to read back only the current
> memory number,
> >> or a 16-byte block of VFO or specified memory
> parameters has
> >> been added to EPROM Q5003 on the Control Unit, from
> revision 6.0.
> >>
> >> "The installed EPROM revision number can be
> non-destructively
> >> checked by holding the 1 and 3 keys at the upper
> corners of the
> >> keypad while switching on. The revision number
> appears after
> >> the display test and manufacturer ID display. If
> your revision
> >> is below 6.0, contact your Yaesu dealer for
> availability and
> >> price of the upgrade."
> >>
> >> Perhaps Win-Test assumes the FT-1000D is at EPROM
> revsion 6.0 or
> >> higher, and will not read frequencies accurately if
> the radio
> >> has the old original EPROM chips.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Bob, N6TV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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