[WT-support] Zone changing....not necessary!
Tom Wylie
t.wylie at ntlworld.com
Wed Oct 31 20:29:19 CET 2007
Arn't we all missing the point. The computer does a check
partial and also a N+1, the CTY file inserts the zone so
what does the operator actually have to do? Click on the
cluster for a new mult?
I thought the logging programme was secondary to operator
skills and that part of the operator skills was ascertaining
the correct call sign you are working and also to obtain the
required exchange.
Maybe I'm missing the point, perhaps I should go down the
local bar for a beer and let the computer do all the work!!!!
D'oh!
Tom
GM4FDM
John Crovelli wrote:
> Tom,
>
> There is an incredible difference in terms of operator efficiency if for
> every K/W qso you have to 'think' about the correct zone to enter for
> every QSO. At a minimum it would have been nice for the software to
> make a guess that stations in W5, W8, W9 and W0 were in Zone 4, not the
> default Zone 5 shown. Same goes for W6s and W7s in Zone 3, not the zone
> 5 default for all K/W. Having to first think about and then most often
> type the correct zone for each contact from these US call areas became a
> significant chore....and after 20 years of being used to having these
> simple call area defaults in place I found the "inconvenience" a major
> headache. Under normal circumstances, with the simple defaults in
> place, entering the correct zone for the number of 'exceptions'
> routinely encountered (e.g. stns not in the expected zone) is
> really trivial by comparison.
>
> Still want to see the WT file default changed to prevent a reoccurence
> of this issue anytime in the future for the more techinically
> challenged.. Frankly it was a *major *surprise during the first minute
> of operation when unexpected events are most unwelcomed.
>
> 73,
>
> John P40W
>
> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:57:37 +0000
> > From: t.wylie at ntlworld.com
> > To: support at win-test.com
> > Subject: Re: [WT-support] Zone changing....not necessary!
> >
> > Well we did 5,500 QSO admittedly not all with Ws, but how
> > can any datbase be up to date? You might as well just
> > scrap the zonal exchange then?
> >
> > You only need the extra keystroke if the zone shown is not
> > correct. The vast majority are so for me its not a major
> > issue.
> >
> > Tom
> > GM4FDM
> >
> >
> >
> > John Crovelli wrote:
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > Its only a few more keystrokes BUT when you face the issue nearly 3000
> > > times (my W qsos) during the contest as I did this past weekend,
> and add
> > > into the mix some amount of sleep deprevation, it becomes a HUGE ISSUE
> > > in terms of logging accuracy. So those 6000 or so extra keystrokes for
> > > me were not trivial.
> > >
> > > I second Nigel's suggestion....make the CTY_WT_MOD.DAT the default
> even
> > > if its not perfect.
> > >
> > > John P40W aka W2GD
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:46:04 +0000
> > > > From: t.wylie at ntlworld.com
> > > > To: support at win-test.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [WT-support] Zone changing....not necessary!
> > > >
> > > > Personally I never believe the CTY files and check each zone
> > > > as it comes in. The problem arrives mainly in the USA
> > > > where they have made a bollox of their callsigns so that a
> > > > W6 may well be in New York etc.
> > > >
> > > > I make changes manually to the Zone if necessary as I go
> > > > along checking the zone each time. I never rely on the CTY
> > > > files, guys move around all the time...
> > > >
> > > > Its only a couple of key strokes more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > > GM4FDM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nigel G3TXF wrote:
> > > > > Hello Win-Test users,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I was also 'correcting' the incoming zone for virtually every
> > > W this
> > > > > weekend. But it was entirely my fault!
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not realised that there was a choice of Country Files, until
> > > Boris
> > > > > T93Y kindly mentioned it on here during the Contest. [But even
> > > after reading
> > > > > Boris' message I did not dare change the Country File myself
> during the
> > > > > contest for fear of messing up my log!]
> > > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't the answer be to make the CTY_WT_MOD.DAT the default
> > > Country File?
> > > > >
> > > > > We could then forget about the other two. Uploading the latest
> > > version of
> > > > > this file from within Win-Test is just so easy.
> > > > >
> > > > > While I am on, I'd like to say that Win-Test once again added
> > > significantly
> > > > > to the fun of the contest, even though I was giving myself extra
> > > work in
> > > > > changing so many incoming Zones, by using the wrong Country File!
> > > > >
> > > > > 73 - Nigel G3TXF
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't perhaps the answer to this
> > > > > problem to make the
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Mikhail Bondarev" <rl3bm at rl3bm.ru>
> > > > > To: "I4UFH HRS" <support at win-test.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WT-support] Problem with zone guessing in 3.16
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi there!
> > > > >> I don't had any problems using WT 3.17.0 in CQWW SSB exept
> some wrong
> > > > >> zone numbers for Asiatic Russia (17 instead 18 etc..), but it
> seem to
> > > > >> me this is a problem of a new CTY file.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73, Mike RL3BM
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I had the same problem with WT 3.16. But after you enter the
> > > > >>> full call, if you move over to the zone field and press Ctrl-W or
> > > > >>> Ctrl-K to clear it, then press the space bar a couple times, WT
> > > > >>> will usually fill in the correct zone.
> > > > >>> 73,
> > > > >>> Bob, N6TV
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On 10/30/07, 4O3A <yt6a at cg.yu> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I had the same problems as Tonno. It was very frustrating to
> > > > >>> know that you have to type correct zone almost on every W's and
> > > > >>> UAs.
> > > > >>> 73
> > > > >>> Ranko
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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