[WT-support] KC1XX turns down win-test

Rick Dougherty NQ4I nq4i at contesting.com
Mon Dec 10 06:45:33 CET 2007


Hi Bob....I hope you see that my post is somewhat toungue in cheek...hi...GL
in convincing Matt...I look back and wonder why I did not do it
earlier...hi...73 and see you in the pile ups..de Rick nq4i

On 12/9/07, Bob Raymond, WA1Z <bob at wa1z.net> wrote:
>
>  From Rick, NQ4I:
> >>I find it amazing that KC1XX has turned down win-test over a few
> irrational discrepancies
>
> Neither Bill nor I have stated that we "turned down" Win-Test
> out-of-hand.  I have been evaluating the software for several months,
> keeping in mind the operating strategies used at KC1XX.  Rick, as an owner
> of a Multi-Multi station I'm sure you'd agree each M/M has unique approaches
> to contesting, both beyond the norm as well as among the Multi-Multi's
> themselves.  I respectfully disagree that the issues we raised are
> "irrational discrepencies."  These issues - for us - stem from how we
> operate at XX.
>
> We're serious about this.  These are real issues to us.  We raised them in
> hopes that it might, at the very least, start a constructive dialog like
> other enhancement requests we've seen mentioned on this reflector.
>
> >>if the same process were used to evaluate their current program, CT they
> would turn it down also
>
> Yes, CT has many issues, which is why we were looking beyond CT in the
> first place.  Win-Test is the best option for migrating beyond CT for
> KC1XX.  However, after thoughtful consideration of -- again -- the operating
> strategies we employ at XX, there are a few road blocks:
>
> - Bug report 159. Control of radio frequency when operating split
>
> - We'd like to see a couple additional keyboard commands implemented in CT
> to reduce 100% reliance on the mouse.  A mouse doesn't provide the speed
> we're looking for.  It's one more peripheral that requires a level of
> hand-eye coordination that is unnecessary and handicapping in a fast-paced
> contesting environment.  Specifically, the CT "Ctrl-Right Arrow" and
> "Alt-Right Arrow" commands that take focus away from the logging control and
> present cursors within the Band Map and DX Spot Announcement windows that
> are scrollable with Up/Down arrow keys are two we'd like to see
> implemented.
>
> In my opinion, it's not being old-fashioned and not willing to get used to
> a mouse.  I'm 32 and don't remember a computer without a mouse.  <g> This is
> about speed and accuracy.
>
> - Alt-F4 does not toggle between run and last-grabbed-spot frequencies.
> By "toggle" we mean having the ability to do unlimited two-way switching
> from a spot, back to the run frequency, back to the last selected spot, and
> so on.  This CT feature gets used quite a lot at XX on bands where we do not
> man two interlocked stations.  Right now, WT's alt-F4 is only one-way from
> the spot back to the run frequency.
>
>  - Response time in setting radio frequency, at least on the Orion.
> Response time between the software and radio is critical to being able to
> utilize the other enhancements listed above effectively.
>
>  The WT developers have done very well making WT as CT-like as possible,
> which is a huge plus for us.  There are many additional features in
> Win-Test that are fantastic, many of which solve the problems with CT that
> drive us crazy.  However, after weighing the pros and cons, CT remains the
> better option for KC1XX for now ***and we don't like that***.  We want
> Win-Test to be the better option.  We thought this would be the right forum
> to raise these topics.
>
> Thanks for your time and 73,
> Bob WA1Z
>
>
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